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Grego5
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Initially Posted - 11/01/2004 :  00:11:07  Show Profile
There have been several posts recently about new jibsgenoas. It seems that almost alls of the recommendations have been to purchase an asymetrical (Gennaker). Since most of the 250's have roller rurling systems an extra halliard would be needed to raise the Gennaker. Is there an easy way to add the halliard with out dropping the mast? Will any hardware have to be added to the top of the mast to accomodate the halliard? Which side of the mast would the halliard exit.

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Greg Perkins
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 11/01/2004 :  08:52:39  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Yes, you need to drop the mast and install a block. (Unless you have the CDI furler, then your headsail halyard is available to you.) The Spinnaker halyard does not need to run internally. Speak with someone at Layline.com so you get line that has the proper stretch characteristics. Spinnaker halyards need to stretch so the light cloth does not blow out.
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Jeff McK
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Response Posted - 11/02/2004 :  14:42:48  Show Profile
As Frank noted, wiith the CDI furler, the jib halyard is available. I plan on using this for my cruiser & gybe the sail under the rolled up jib.

Frank: I looked at Layline's site as you suggested for info on lines to use with cruising asymmetricals.

They recommend LOW stretch lines like StaSet (which is the stock halyard on my boat), or StaSet-X, or the equivalent in other brands. You are obviously a very experienced sailor, so this is confusing when compared you your recomendation of stretchy lines. I can see some logic in using either type of line. Any clarification would be greatly appreciated.
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 11/02/2004 :  17:44:04  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
You over estimate my knowledge and underestimate my bombast. How ever when I talked to Layline about a spinnaker halyard they advised me to stay away from the high tech halyards that I had purchased from them for my main and head sail. I had purchased Samson Ultra-tech for those halyards. Those lines with the traditional Low-strech label stretch more than the new high-tech cores stuff. I trust Layline emphatically. (Even though they refuse to be a sponsor of our nationals, I have not given up on them yet!)
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Oscar
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Response Posted - 11/02/2004 :  19:43:27  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
Maybe if you're ocean racing and pushing a 1200 sq foot balloon attached to a 70 foot pole to the limit surfing down 25 footers at 14 knots the schock absorbency of the halyard would be a significant factor in staying just on the right side of the line between control and disaster......on a 25 or 250 racing on a lake I think you could use anything you want with satisfactory results. I'd buy what's on sale.....But what do I know......

Oscar
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