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azexploder
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Initially Posted - 02/01/2004 : 15:47:26

Took a 40th Birthday cruise yesterday and saw a NEW C250 WB sitting on its trailer looking all pretty and shiny. Looked back at my 1995 and her new VC17 bottom, dirty rub rail, dinged topsides, and hull that looked so nice after a wax, but not so much now.

Then I noticed all the water on the ground by the boat and found out the water was from inside the cabin, not the tank. Owner indicated 100 gal was bailed on her first sail, and 40 on her second ( while he and the dealer searched for the leak)

I know the dealer and he is a great guy and knowledgeable sailor and I know he will make it right.

Looked back at my girl again and thought... She sure looks good, and not a drop in the bilge.

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sailgal
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Response Posted - 02/01/2004 : 16:21:33

"The grass is always greener".....sometimes there is comfort in the familiar. Bummer tho for the poor chap with the "broken" new toy!

Wonder if he is on this forum, would like to hear what the heck happened.
Happy belated Birthday!

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azexploder
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Response Posted - 02/01/2004 : 20:43:06

I highly recomended the site and he wrote down the address. We should see his reply shortly. The misses's first visit to the boat was to help bail and dry out the cabin.

Thanks for the birthday wish.

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zebra50
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Response Posted - 02/03/2004 : 11:40:27

Y9ou might look at the through bolt for the ballast tank. There has been extensive info on the leaking due to off set of the bolt in this forum and how to fix the problem.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 02/05/2004 : 16:16:39

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">You might look at the through bolt for the ballast tank<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

That was my first guess. Been there done that....

The other possibility is that the infamous "Catalina manufacturing technician whoe goes to the bathroom and forgets what he was doing when he gets back" forgot to install/clamp the vent hose on the front of the ballast tank.....

Oscar

Lady Kay 250 WB #618
In the driveway in Behtlehem, PA ready to go anytime.

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DougA
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Response Posted - 02/05/2004 : 20:28:39

I was able to find a leak in my tank by closing the valve and pressurizing it with the pump used to empty the tank at the dock before loading on the trailer as described here several times. After determining the general area of the leak, I used a thin piece of 1 in oak I had trimmed off during another project and inserted it through the access hole to the bilge. I moved it around until I could hear a definite sound change. Mine was a puncture in the tank from a pilot drill going too deep while installing snaps for the carpet. I used a one-inch hole saw to cut through the sole using the snap screw hole as the center. I put a SS screw coated in 4200 into the tank hole and reinstalled the 1” plug after enlarging the center of the hole and using epoxy to hold everything together. Reinstalled the snap and everything worked fine.

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zebra50
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Response Posted - 02/07/2004 : 10:21:52

second thought is the hose line for the fresh water. I recently found a leak in the line to the head, after I had filled the fresh water tank with about 5 + gals. On mine the off/on valve had cracked over the winter, but if the tech. didnt clamp in or it came loose....

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 02/08/2004 : 17:25:18

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Mine was a puncture in the tank from a pilot drill going too deep while installing snaps for the carpet.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

That sounds like a Catalina special......there are little collars you clamp on a drill bit to avoid these things...

Oscar

Lady Kay 250 WB #618
In the driveway in Behtlehem, PA ready to go anytime.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/08/2004 : 19:18:28

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Oscar
 

That sounds like a Catalina special......there are little collars you clamp on a drill bit to avoid these things...

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Do you secretly want to spend a month as a forman on one of their lines? They would know you had been there!

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 02/09/2004 : 20:53:22

In all fairness, the only way to make these boats for the money that they sell for, and survive as a business, is to hire unskilled labor. It's not a question of setting it up right, it's a question of constant supervision, because these people are disciples of Murphy. If there is a way to booger it up, they will find it.

Not to take away from Franks accomplishments, but it seems he's focused on the back end....putting out the fires in the warrantee department. If he'd spend the same effort on the line keeping theses problems from occuring in the first place.......

But what do I know

Oscar

Lady Kay 250 WB #618
In the driveway in Behtlehem, PA ready to go anytime.

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 02/09/2004 : 21:30:09

Looks like Frank, is going to have a major blaze in the not to distant future. If his supervisors including staff trouble shooters don't get there act together he may have a few more. He should also get a handle on his dealers or they may put more holes in his boat than he can plug. This is not to say all dealers, but it only takes a couple of the right size holes to sink the ship.

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DougA
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Response Posted - 02/09/2004 : 21:51:48

You can lighten up on Frank a little bit, but not a lot. The hole in my water tank was self-inflected while installing carpet that I thought was supplied with Velcro. The carpet took about 6 weeks to arrive from Catalina and it arrived the day before we were to leave for the San Juan’s for a 2 week trip. Didn't find the hole until I launched in Bellingham. Spend two days fixing the leak and a broken keel cabel in the parking lot.

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 02/09/2004 : 22:47:13

The boat can be launched with a broken cable by putting a belly line under the boat to hold the center board up. Don't let a broken cable mess up a vacation cruise.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 02/10/2004 : 13:35:05

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The boat can be launched with a broken cable by putting a belly line under the boat to hold the center board up. Don't let a broken cable mess up a vacation cruise.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Looking outside at Lady Kay, that line would have to be two feet or so behind the hinge point, because that's where the bunks start which run well past the end of the board. Would that hold it up? Or would the torque of the board be too much and force it down enough for the line to slip forward. On retrieveal I guess you could live with the line ending up stuck between the bunks and the boat untill next launch....

Oscar

Lady Kay 250 WB #618
In the driveway in Behtlehem, PA ready to go anytime.

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 02/10/2004 : 18:49:37

The sling is placed after the boat is floating which then allows the board to clear aft of the cross member... Or, if the water is not ice cold... go under and lift the board to clear the cross member. But that seemed a little intimidating to me... and the water was very cold and the ramp area quite muddy... so I know it works.

After trailering 1300 miles... can't let the small stuff stop the action.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 02/10/2004 : 19:16:36

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">can't let the small stuff stop the action<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

You'd make a good pilot, Arlyn....

Oscar

Lady Kay 250 WB #618
In the driveway in Behtlehem, PA ready to go anytime.

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