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Gloss
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Initially Posted - 10/16/2003 :  20:56:18  Show Profile
Hello again,
I just got through mounting my new roller furler and sail, and guesse what? It works.
One of my many projects I am considering is a bow roller mounted anchor, like maybe a CQR, or Delta or plow. This is related to my earlier thread on what anchor will fit into an 89 bow storage locker, where several folks strongly suggested having the anchor more accesable for quicker deployment.

So how much clearance do you need between the bottom of a furling drum and a bow roller mounted anchor? Do the anchor shanks swing up during deployment? I would hate to tear up my new Schaeffer CF700. I'm sure the anchor would win if there was interference.
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Frank Gloss
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Gloss
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Response Posted - 10/16/2003 :  20:42:52  Show Profile
that is what I expected. My new sail from Ullman is so tall that I don't know if I could raise my drum. I'll look at it further.
Thanks for your help

Frank Gloss
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 10/17/2003 :  00:18:34  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
I have a schaffer roller and a bow anchor roller. I can not use the bow roller to actually hold an anchor - it is OK for raising and lowering but can't store an anchor there while sailing. The problem is that the shank of the anchor would rub on the furling drum.

Unless the furler were raised about 3 or 4 inches the bow anchor roller is essentially useless.

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deastburn
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Response Posted - 10/17/2003 :  00:34:59  Show Profile
I have a CDI roller furler that sits four to six inches above the deck. I have mounted a bow anchor roller (it is either an AR-2 or an AR-3 Windline--check with West Marine at http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&classNum=687&subdeptNum=197&storeNum=5&productId=8044)
at a slight angle to clear the stem fitting. That also helps it clear the roller furling drum. It carries a 14lb Delta with 15 feet of chain. It is a superb system, allows me to drop and weigh anchor quickly even in a crowded anchorage, and it holds in virtually any condition, provided it is snubbed aggressively when first set. I use a small carabiner attached to a u bolt in the chain locker to catch the chain links and hold the anchor taut on the bow roller.

Having a good anchoring system is pretty much as important to one's safety and that of your crew IMHO as life jackets or flares or a VHF radio.


Dave on "Wood Duck" (#2616 - SR, FK)
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RichardG
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Response Posted - 10/17/2003 :  17:17:14  Show Profile
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> it is either an AR-2 or an AR-3 Windline<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

The AR-2 has a pretty short base (about 4"), is the least expensive Windline roller (about $30 at other than WM) and has no pin to keep the line/chain from coming out of the roller pulley. The AR-3 has about a 7" base, is about double the cost of the AR-2 and has a pin to keep the rode in. Neither is designed to have an anchor mounted on it ([url="http://www.windline.com/rollerpulleyonly.html"]Windline roller-only[/url]).

Windline mounts (URM, CRM and BRM series) have bases which are significantly longer than the AR's, and are quite a bit more $. I think the URM-3 is the least expensive ([url="http://www.windline.com/rolleroverbow.html"]Windline mounts[/url]).

All Windline products appear to be very well made.

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RichardG 81 C25 SR/FK "Sanity"
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