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tmhansen
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Initially Posted - 10/13/2003 : 01:37:21

Took me a while to make all the changes I wanted to on the transom but I have the new Garelick motor mount installed and the OB hanging on it. It is just about perfect. My wife can do it. A slight push down to drop the motor and a little effort to raise it up. The mount is solid, no more flexing transom.

Now I can't get the motor to start. <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle> Before I took the motor off I ran it on the mount with hose etc. Ran all the fuel out of the system. Took it off and stored in the garage on a stand - upright the whole time.

Now I have reconnected it. Fresh gas. It floods. Even with throttle backed off. I have backed off the cable as far as it will go. Gas is dripping out of the air intake at the carb. (2000 Evinrude 15hp, Elec start, alt.) Before I drag it down to the shop does anyone have any ideas on what happened? It seems like something in the carb is stuck open.

Todd Hansen
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atgep
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Response Posted - 10/13/2003 : 08:10:12

The float is stuck in the down position. Take the bowl off and wiggle the float and needle valve to un stick it. It should be pretty simple. It is a bit easier on the older ones than the new ones. Good luck.

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atgep
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Response Posted - 10/13/2003 : 08:14:15

Come think of it before you do all that. Try to give the carb a little love tap with a mallet. Don't really hit it but rather just a tap. It might be enough to get the float moving again.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 10/13/2003 : 10:37:24

One of my lawnmowers just did the same thing... carb float stuck down after being left dry for an extended period of time.

Couple of gentle taps on the float bowl with a wrench did the trick.

Hopefully you'll get lucky and it will free up without having to disassemble it.

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
'78 Catalina 25

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 10/13/2003 : 10:42:42

Hi Todd,

You might have a really simple problem that has nothing to do with the carburetor. Do you have a fuel tank with a vent you can open and close? When the fuel tank heats up, lots of pressure builds up inside ... if you forgot to open the vent, gas will shoot out of the hose like a geyser and flood your carburetor.

The mechanic at our marina replaced the impeller in my O/B this summer, and he forgot to vent the tank before starting the engine ... there was fuel everywhere. He was already tearing apart my carburetor trying to fix something that wasn't broken when I discovered his mistake. He decided not to charge me for the carburetor work! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Good luck ... 'hope you get it fixed!

Buzz Maring
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Sales
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Response Posted - 10/13/2003 : 13:04:14

Speaking of transoms. The outside of our transom on our 1988 has some white, foam type material in a u shape that is deteriorating. We purchased her in July, and don't know what the material is for, and if we should scrape it off? It begins where the rub rail ends.

Breezy

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 10/13/2003 : 13:17:59

Sue,

That sounds like the deck joint trim piece. Mine, like yours, is deteriorating badly. I understand that Catalina Direct has replacements.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/13/2003 : 15:40:34

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Do you have a fuel tank with a vent you can open and close? When the fuel tank heats up, lots of pressure builds up inside ... if you forgot to open the vent, gas will shoot out of the hose like a geyser and flood your carburetor.
Buzz Maring
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Not to get too far afield, but, my tank has no vent. It is an old metal 6.5 and it just has the black cap. Should I loosen it? I've seen the ones with caps like mine that have a sliver knurled knob on top, but it is not there on mine.

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 10/13/2003 : 16:17:43

It is probably vented... you will know in about 15 minutes after running if its not.

On this vein of thought, this summer we gassed up once and had a good bit of distance before the evening anchorage. There, I opened the fuel locker to get the propane bottle for the evening meal. The 3 gal plastic Honda gas tank had about imploded. The young man on the dock after filling the tank, had shut off the vent... which I never do so hadn't checked.

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Response Posted - 10/14/2003 : 00:00:14

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Speaking of transoms. The outside of our transom on our 1988 has some white, foam type material in a u shape that is deteriorating. We purchased her in July, and don't know what the material is for, and if we should scrape it off? It begins where the rub rail ends.
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Welcome, Sue... I took that trim off and filled the screw holes--looks perfectly decent to me. But if you want to replace the trim, as JB says, Catalina Direct has it. See www.catalinadirect.com, and while you're at it, get their C-25 Handbook if you don't have one. It's largely a catalog, but has lots of good upgrade info--not everything is on their Web site. They're good folks and know the C-25. (They're not affiliated with Catalina--just making a good business on C-22s and C-25s.)

Also, I'll put in a plug for joining the association if you haven't. This forum is more than worth the dues, all by itself--if you ignore some of the arguments I get into... <img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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deastburn
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Response Posted - 10/14/2003 : 12:36:17

The trim piece is also available (cheaply) from Catalina Yacht Sales. I replaced mine three seasons ago, and it already needs replacing again. It is a piece of nasty, cheap plastic, and it does not hold up to salt and mildew. I am considering replacing it with a piece of teak which I can custom cut in the workshop.

Dave on "Wood Duck" (#2616 - SR, FK)

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 10/14/2003 : 13:04:33

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The trim piece is also available (cheaply) from Catalina Yacht Sales. I replaced mine three seasons ago, and it already needs replacing again. It is a piece of nasty, cheap plastic, and it does not hold up to salt and mildew. I am considering replacing it with a piece of teak which I can custom cut in the workshop.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

I intend to replace mine with Starboard left over from my icebox project.

J.B. Manley
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Grand Lake O' the Cherokees
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oldsalt
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Response Posted - 10/14/2003 : 19:55:12

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Speaking of transoms. The outside of our transom on our 1988 has some white, foam type material in a u shape that is deteriorating. We purchased her in July, and don't know what the material is for, and if we should scrape it off? It begins where the rub rail ends.

Breezy
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It didn't start as a foam type of material, it began life as a shiny, flexible, white vinyl or plastic part which deteriorates after a few years due to exposure to ultraviolet. I've gotten replacements from CD and they only cost a few bucks. When you replace them you have to trim them and take care that they don't split when you cut them to fit in place.

Mark, Silver Girl '83 fin keel tall rig #3744

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Bubba
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Response Posted - 10/17/2003 : 19:37:07

Todd,
Is there any chance of posting a picture of your new motor mount? I've been looking at the Garelick mounts myself.

Dave & Deb
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