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slim
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Initially Posted - 03/03/2016 :  10:53:21  Show Profile
I put a lot of thought into this stove installation as i could not find anything that was within my budget that worked in this area. Finally went with this little propain camping stove, uses the same fuel as my barbeque. I fastened it down with screws thru the bottom and the propain can be removed after each use if you choose for safety. I cooked on it in my house for a week doing the same foods that i cook on the boat and one can of fuel lasted a full 5 days and there was no hot spots on the metal to worry about.
1978 - C25 - standard rig - Fixed keel #1040
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Response Posted - 03/03/2016 :  15:51:08  Show Profile
Looks good. Who makes the unit?
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slim
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Response Posted - 03/03/2016 :  16:39:48  Show Profile
Jim

That is a Base Camp unit I think it is the deluxe model. Like i said it worked really well for me at home so i have good expectations for it in my boat.

Slim
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Peregrine
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Response Posted - 03/03/2016 :  21:38:40  Show Profile  Visit Peregrine's Homepage
Nice installation.
I opted for a single burner that I stow along with some pans in the space you put your stove.

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Response Posted - 03/03/2016 :  22:38:14  Show Profile
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...and the butane can be removed after each use if you choose for safety.
I seriously hope you choose to. I doubt that camp stove has the thermocouple valve to shut off the gas if there is no flame, as required by ABYC code for a permanent connection. The objective, of course, is to not have your cabin full of butane or propane... which you might discover only when your deck and cabin are deposited in pieces all around the marina.

BTW, I haven't seen butane in a canister like that--are you sure you're not using propane?
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hewebb
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Response Posted - 03/04/2016 :  04:58:12  Show Profile


I used the same stove and it uses a butane canister also.
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Response Posted - 03/04/2016 :  05:59:59  Show Profile
Very nice wood counter/storage you installed. I use a portable, single burner camp stove as well -- but rarely.
Peter Bigelow
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Response Posted - 03/04/2016 :  06:51:46  Show Profile  Visit Bladeswell's Homepage
Hello Everyone,

My restoration is now at the point where I must rebuild the the galley. Specifically where the stove sitts and below. So before I start, I had to make a choice of what type of stove I want.I know that most prefer propane but it just seems a lot of extra expense added after the initial cost of the stove. All necessary with propane. I'm pretty sure that I will be doing very limited cooking on my boat so I have decided on the Origo 3000 non pressurized alcohol two burner stove. Now I know I could get the single burner butane cartridge stove shown in one of the above posts from WM. I believe they are only about $35 bucks, very portable and easily stowed. But I really wanted the two burner option. Good sailing all.

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slim
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Response Posted - 03/04/2016 :  07:08:31  Show Profile
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...and the butane can be removed after each use if you choose for safety.
I seriously hope you choose to. I doubt that camp stove has the thermocouple valve to shut off the gas if there is no flame, as required by ABYC code for a permanent connection. The objective, of course, is to not have your cabin full of butane or propane... which you might discover only when your deck and cabin are deposited in pieces all around the marina.

BTW, I haven't seen butane in a canister like that--are you sure you're not using propane?


Your perfectly right it is propain not butain and that stove has the best shutoff in the industry - my removal of the 16oz can when i am not cooking with it, you just can not get any better than that.
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 03/04/2016 :  09:34:46  Show Profile
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...I have decided on the Origo 3000 non pressurized alcohol two burner stove.
Bladeswell: I bought one for my C-25 (Passage)--pretty big bucks. When I changed boats, I also changed to a single butane burner like those shown--much nicer cooking than alcohol, especially for those of us who don't use it every day. (The butane is definitely more expensive.) I believe "Voyager" Bruce Ross now uses a butane aboard Passage--I wonder if he has an Origo he'd like to sell you.
Dave Bristle
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JamesBird
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Response Posted - 03/04/2016 :  13:08:12  Show Profile
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I used the same stove and it uses a butane canister also.


I like the storage area under the stove. Is it drawer or a hinged door? Any additional pics of it?
Jim
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SKS
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Response Posted - 03/04/2016 :  16:00:15  Show Profile
Where do you get the butane canisters from ?
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Bladeswell
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Response Posted - 03/04/2016 :  17:01:00  Show Profile  Visit Bladeswell's Homepage
Yeah you're right,

The Origo 3000 will cost $350 plus bucks. But at least its a one time cost and safe. Although the single burner butane stoves Above would be just as safe and cost a whole lot less.

Bladeswell
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hewebb
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Response Posted - 03/05/2016 :  04:24:50  Show Profile
Jim
"I like the storage area under the stove. Is it drawer or a hinged door? Any additional pics of it?"

It is a drawer made from teak. I do not have any more photos of it. I made it like the other drawers that came with the boat. It is in its own cabinet so it can be removed to go back to the original alcohol stove.
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hewebb
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Response Posted - 03/05/2016 :  04:27:32  Show Profile
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Where do you get the butane canisters from ?


I got mine at Amazon. I bought a case of them and have yet to use all the first one. We no longer spend nights on the boat.
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SKS
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Response Posted - 03/05/2016 :  12:13:03  Show Profile
Thanks hewebb !
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 03/05/2016 :  12:27:14  Show Profile
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Where do you get the butane canisters from ?
I've seen them in my local True Value... WM and Defender used to have them, but I haven't seen them there recently.
Dave Bristle
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 03/05/2016 :  22:32:52  Show Profile
Dave - the Origo never made it to me, our interlocutor Bill must've pulled it from Passage before he sold her. I also use a Burton butane stove (canisters are available at my local Asian grocery for about $3.00 each) with a single burner Coleman stove as a backup.
Word of warning however:
1. Don't store extra butane canisters below decks. Use the starboard seat hatch or the fuel locker (not the dumpster) to store the canister. The canisters are made of cold rolled steel. I had one start to rust out from the salt water and begin to leak. Not good.
2. I use white gas for the Coleman stove. I keep a few extra ounces in a plastic screw cap bottle in the fuel locker. Safest place on the boat.
Bruce Ross
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sethp001
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Response Posted - 03/06/2016 :  09:52:27  Show Profile
Our boat came with a fairly nice Coleman two burner propane stove permanently mounted in the regular spot. It looks like it was designed to be mounted. I removed it in favor of more storage after a few seasons because I never used it.

I really like cooking in the cockpit using a plain two burner Coleman stove stored in the dumpster. Anybody else prefer cooking in the cockpit to cooking in the cabin?


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Response Posted - 03/06/2016 :  09:58:06  Show Profile  Visit Lee Panza's Homepage
When discussions of portable camp stoves turn to those small butane units, usually someone jumps in to point out that there have been a disturbing number of explosions of those units. Google something like "butane stove explosions" for some info. There certainly are hazards associated with propane (even with the comparatively benign alcohol in our original "curtain burner" stoves), but the apparently significant hazard of butane canister stoves should be noted.
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Response Posted - 03/06/2016 :  10:03:07  Show Profile
I always cook in the cockpit also. Usually the bbq. I pretty much only use the stove for our percolator. It is a butane and I also get fuel from amazon. If you have a local swap meet, you can sometimes find them there for cheap also.
Ken
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slim
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Response Posted - 03/08/2016 :  18:57:00  Show Profile
OK you guys touting the virtues of butane stoves let me just say that all of the butane stoves mentioned in this thread very plainly state in their owner's manual. Not for use indoors or in an enclosed space such as a tent or vehicle. Do not expose fuel cartridge to heat or open flame, or store at temperatures above 110°F also i would add that these units do not have heat shielding on the sides or back like my unite making them a very real fire hazard around anything that is flammable like fiberglass or wood. The flame control is less than fine tuned making cooking on cast iron or using a pressure cooker very difficult. The btu output is only about 7K on one burner as compared to my 10k on my two burner making cooking times more than twice as long and the fuel containers are so small that taking enough for a week out gunkholing will turn into a storage disaster. If you are serious about cooking on your boat for you and your crew the propane choice is by far the best.
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Response Posted - 03/08/2016 :  20:55:50  Show Profile
I always plan a 1 pot meal and don't turn the burner to max unless I'm heating water for coffee, so 7k or 10k is of little importance to me. I'm glad your nice stove fits your needs. Some of us have simpler requirements. The Kenyon stove I use has a very responsive flame control and a reliable cylinder lock. Bigger meals involve my Magma propane grill. Different strokes

I also cook in the cockpit. Actually, I put the stove on the cockpit seat and stand in the cabin.

Dave B. aboard Pearl
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Lake Erie/Florida Panhandle
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slim
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Response Posted - 03/09/2016 :  04:20:18  Show Profile
Yes the magma grill is nice for the times when i am in a hidden cove with no wind to blow out the flame and i can stand by the grill to relight it every few minutes when there is a small breeze. As for the 7K and single burner i suppose if you're found boating memories are made from a cup of noodles for you and your crew then the single burner stove with minimal output is adequate for your needs as a survival sailer, not to mention the fact that you are not shielding any of the surrounding areas from your heat source with this type of stove. As you say different strokes for different folks.
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Response Posted - 03/09/2016 :  06:30:28  Show Profile
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..all of the butane stoves mentioned in this thread very plainly state in their owner's manual. Not for use indoors or in an enclosed space such as a tent or vehicle...



Is the one you installed good to go indoors? Owner's manual, or whatever regulations, etc. etc. ?

Regarding cooking, hopefully everyone is cooking in nice weather with plenty of ventilation, but what if it's pouring or something like that?

Does anyone cook in the enclosed cabin? I hope not.

It seems like the biggest thing is just fuel storage and management. This is all risk vs. reward and what suits the user. I think everyone understands that and the required safety statements have been made, so enjoy it!

I use a charcoal magma for my meal cooking on board. Have both a charcoal and gas one however keeping a steady flame in a breeze on the gas grill proved to be strenous. By just cooking on the charcoal it does create a niche use-case however I has worked out just fine and we enjoy it.

if I'm day-sailing I pack some snacks to munch on and some sammies or subs. If I'm staying for one night we'll pack all the snacks, a meal (hamburgers, hotdogs, steaks + potato salad or whatever) to cook on the charcoal magma, a breakfast caserole that goes in a tin on the BBQ in the morning and a sandwich for the ride home. Works great for us and we always know how and what to pack for trips. One food cooler and one drink cooler.

We've got our original curtain burner installed, but I've never looked at using it even once. Not even sure where the fuel goes??

Anyway... Looking forward to doing this very, very soon!! -Regards

Captain Rob & Admiral Alyson
"David Buoy"-1985 C25 SK/SR #5053
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 03/09/2016 :  19:59:47  Show Profile
One pot meals for me usually mean home prep and freezing and the occasional canned soup. They keep well in a small, dedicated cooler and only require reheating. I like tasty and simple while aboard. Grilled veggies and a burger also suit me. Being happy with one's own approach and results is what's important.

Dave B. aboard Pearl
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