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BCG-Woodbury
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Response Posted - 01/13/2013 : 09:21:15

Chip -

I don't have much experience with a strap. Depending on how the boat is floating, getting it to slide on the bunks might be a challenge. The tongue extension helps get the trailer deeper and leaves your vehicle out of the water. Some of the sailboat trailers I've seen have them but I know they can be added easily. With the roller trailer, the boat can actually move fore and aft with little effort, with bunks the stress on the tow eye could be pretty high. A slimy bottom would help but you won't have that as a dry sailor. Good luck with it.

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ChipG
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Response Posted - 01/13/2013 : 12:52:32

I was really considering rollers. The bunks aren't flat like for powerboats which seems to me will make it hard to load and unload

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Response Posted - 01/13/2013 : 15:02:35

Chip,

My trailer is a Magic Tilt also and I have the bunks too. My trailer has a 4' to 5' extension that you won't realize is even there unless you look closely. There's a pin on the on the opposite end of the extension from the tongue which allows the whole assemble to slide out the 4' or 5'. Pull the pin, drive forward a few feet, re-install the pin and back down the ramp.

It's probably not enough to really make a difference but might give you "just enough" on certain ramps.

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Response Posted - 01/14/2013 : 07:18:05

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ChipG
 I was really considering rollers. The bunks aren't flat like for powerboats which seems to me will make it hard to load and unload
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Chip,
If your concern is friction between the bunk boards and the hull, look into "Slik Sticks". They are thin Teflon plates that attach to the carpeted surfaces of bunk boards. They reduce the friction so much that you really have to wait to disconnect the bow eye from the trailer winch till the boat is almost ready to come off the trailer to keep it from simply slipping back off the trailer and landing on the ramp (that actually happened on a ramp near where I live!!)

You get the support area of bunk boards but the lower friction approaching that of rollers.

I do not trailer Confetti except for long trips, but my fishing boat trailer will be getting these things this spring!

Chuck

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Response Posted - 01/14/2013 : 07:34:02

With a trailer with fixed bunks, you have to get the trailer deep enough to float the boat free of the bunks. The neat thing about a trailer with roller bunks is that, as the boat moves aft, the trailer actually lowers the boat to the water, which means you can launch the boat in much shallower water than with a fixed bunk trailer. As the boat rolls aft, the support bars rotate aft and down.

I saw a C25 roll off the roller trailer in the parking lot, as Chuck described, and the owner was able to pull it back onto the trailer himself, using the trailer winch, without having to hire a crane.

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Response Posted - 01/14/2013 : 19:41:14

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Steve Milby
 I saw a C25 roll off the roller trailer in the parking lot, as Chuck described, and the owner was able to pull it back onto the trailer himself, using the trailer winch, without having to hire a crane.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">OUCH!

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ChipG
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Response Posted - 01/19/2013 : 19:33:13

Some progress. There was about 2' of water that had been marinating the interior for some time, so, as you can imagine, it was NASTY. Wish we had stopped to take a few before pics

Edited by - ChipG on 01/19/2013 20:01:31

GaryB
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Response Posted - 01/19/2013 : 19:54:44

What concoction did you use to clean up the inside?

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ChipG
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Response Posted - 01/19/2013 : 20:06:54

Dawn dish soap with bleach for the majority, CLR for rust stains, and T.S.P. Substitute for tough spots

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Response Posted - 01/20/2013 : 11:17:42

How did the main bulkheads (between the salon and the head) do in the marinating? They are structurally important--particularly for anchoring the upper shroud chainplates. Also check for evidence of leaks where those chainplates come through the deck, and any resulting damage to the plywood.

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ChipG
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Response Posted - 01/20/2013 : 13:15:17

They were starting to get soft at the bottom where they stayed submerged, but looked good around the chainplates. The compression post and base are good thankfully. I'm going to re-bed everything on the deck since I've gone as far as gutting the interior. When I sold my C30 I thought I had re-sealed aluminum Catalina window frames for the last time(lol), but here I go again

Edited by - ChipG on 01/20/2013 13:17:49

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Response Posted - 01/20/2013 : 17:51:12

The bottom of the plywood is not that critical for the chainplates, since they pull upward, pressing the bulkhead against the deck. Below the cabin sole, the teak compression post is supported by what I believe to be a 4x4 piece of fir--check that too. My "dinette" interior layout made that access easy--I don't know about yours.

Edited by - Stinkpotter on 01/20/2013 17:55:49

hubbardbilly
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Response Posted - 03/20/2013 : 01:44:57

All, I hate to "bump" an old post, but I was curious if Chip ever got those bunk measurements? I just picked up a killer deal on a dual-axle trailer that had a 26' power boat on it. It has brakes and a winch and everything looks great. What's most important is that I got it at the RIGHT PRICE (I highly recommend the Craigslist App for the iPhone. You can set up "alerts" for searches which allows you to be the first person to call as soon as something gets posted).

Anyhow, I will be dropping off the trailer to my local welder with some photos and measurements of other trailers, so if ChipG could post a few more pics with some measurements I would GREATLY appreciate it!

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Response Posted - 03/20/2013 : 21:44:37

Congratulations and welcome to the group, Chip.

I have a RESCUED 1980 Fixed Keel, Catalina 25 that is currently on a homemade trailer. Not a Swing Keel, like I originally wanted, however the price was too good to pass up. You can see some of the before and after pics on this forum. My boat, like yours had about 8 inches of water inside while on the trailer. I don't believe that the boat has actually been ON water since 1985ish. Lots of work to do with fiberglass on the keel, and the pulbit mount areas on the deck. Catalina Direct is a great place for C-25 specific items, however I am having some good luck at the Swap Meet on this site, Ebay, and Craigslist.

Keep posting pictures as you progress. This place is great for advice and instruction. Im very impressed with the advice given.

Roy, aka ftworthsailor

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Sam001
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Response Posted - 03/21/2013 : 12:38:43

Chip, I will add my welcome. And join the association.

I redid my C25 when I got her.
It is hard work but you know all the "things" about the boat when you are done.
Sam

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ChipG
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Response Posted - 08/11/2013 : 17:53:25

Racing season has slowed boat progress, but here's a few shots. Hopefully I'll have her in the water this fall

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Response Posted - 08/12/2013 : 03:01:52

Nice, I like the contrast with the lighter bulkheads.

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redeye
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Response Posted - 08/12/2013 : 03:49:32

Wow... that was a lot of work.. Looks cool!

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 08/12/2013 : 10:03:55

Great job on the restoration. Looks wonderful. The lighter color on the bulkheads and around the galley is a nice touch.
Where are you located in/near Mobile? My wife is from there. There's a yacht club about half way up the bay (at least north of Dog River) called Buccaneer Yacht Club that might be worth looking into for dry storage with the mast up. Here's a link to their website:
http://marinas.com/view/marina/241_Buccaneer_Yacht_Club_Mobile_AL_United_States

Actually, looking at the photos, it might not work for a boat as big as a C-25. I couldn't see a ramp in their photos, only a hoist.

Edited by - dmpilc on 08/12/2013 10:09:50

ChipG
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Response Posted - 08/12/2013 : 14:28:33

Thanks guys. I'm on the East side of Mobile Bay in Fairhope. I believe Fairhope Yacht club's ramp will work out, as quite a few boats get launched there for regattas. I'll hopefully find out soon enough

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 08/12/2013 : 14:40:07

You should have no trouble at all launching at Fairhope Yacht Club. I hope to get down there next year for the Dauphin Island race.

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ChipG
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Response Posted - 08/12/2013 : 15:15:38

Hopefully I'll see you out there :) I was able to salvage all the original teak trim, although I was worried how it would look with the birch I used. It actually turned out pretty nice looking.

Edited by - ChipG on 08/12/2013 15:15:58

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Response Posted - 08/12/2013 : 18:44:33

Well executed. Thanks for the photos.

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