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islander
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Initially Posted - 01/04/2012 : 16:19:04

OK So I'm trying to save myself a trip down to the Marina and was wondering if anybody that has easy access to their boat could tell me the width of the swim ladder. I need the width of the ladder itself Not including the mount, Just the ladder from the outside edges of the tubes. I'm thinking of a ladder extension project. For you members down south who are still sailing, This is what we northerners do to pass the time.

Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
Sailing out of Glen Cove,L.I Sound

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 01/04/2012 : 17:06:43

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> For you members down south who are still sailing, This is what we northerners do to pass the time.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

My swim ladder measures about 10" wide. I did have to put my jacket on.....

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islander
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Response Posted - 01/04/2012 : 17:12:18

Thanks Dave, I saw that this blast of cold air got down to Fla.

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glivs
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Response Posted - 01/06/2012 : 19:24:13

Scott if you're still in the design phase, check out "Extend your step" at [url="http://www.clrmarine.com/"]CLR Marine[/url]

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islander
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Response Posted - 01/07/2012 : 06:50:20

Thanks Gerry, I looked at the extendastep but I really don't want a strap on plastic step. It will also swing under the boat when you put your foot on it putting your shin in jeopardy of hitting the lower step of the ladder. For about the same price I was thinking of getting another ladder I came across and removing the lower step and re-riveting it onto our ladder. It will swing down and be solid. I e-Mailed the seller asking them the size of the tubing but haven't heard back yet. This is the ladder. http://www.anchoring.com/product_info.php?cPath=79_81& products_id=225

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 01/07/2012 : 09:46:04

Perhaps something like this swing-down step could be bolted to the standard boarding ladder:
http://www.overtons.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?i=94069&pdesc=Springfield_Reboarding_Ladder&aID=601K1&merchID=4006

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islander
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Response Posted - 01/07/2012 : 10:16:34

David, You've got the idea that I'm shooting for but the one I'm looking at is 10 1/2" wide, Davy said his ladder is @ 10". I just got back from my boat and my ladder is 10 3/4" wide. I don't know how wide the one you are showing me is. They would have to be within about 1/2" of my ladder for the hinge to work.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 01/07/2012 : 13:47:00

Call Overton's and ask them to measure the distance between the screw holes on the base plates. I would also ask them for the measurement of the width of the bars at the top on the same basis that you measured, i.e. on center or outside-to-outside. Being a single loop, it could be bent in or pulled out a tiny bit if necessary, possibly 1/4 to 1/2" max. Good luck with the project.

To extend our boarding ladder, for the admiral, I took some 3/8" line and 2 pieces of 2x4 and made a 2-step extension that I wrap around the bottom rung once and tie off to the next-to-bottom rung of our boarding ladder.
It's not great, but it does work. I need to find a weight to add to the bottom, because the 2 "steps" float, so they have to be pushed down manually to get my foot on the bottom one.

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islander
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Response Posted - 01/07/2012 : 14:27:09

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> Being a single loop, it could be bent in or pulled out a tiny bit if necessary, possibly 1/4 to 1/2" max. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
David, Exactly what I was thinking, It could be spread or compressed some that is why I thought It would have to be within about 1/2" of the swim ladder. The extend your step says to add fishing sinkers to the bottom of the last step to keep it submerged. 2x4's are very buoyant so this might not work for you. Maybe you could replace the 2x4's with replacement steps for swimming pool ladders, Plastic/less buoyant then add the sinkers. Just a thought.

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glivs
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Response Posted - 01/08/2012 : 16:52:31

Let us know how you come out. Don Lucier has a five step ladder that looks great. IIRC it may have come from a C27 but I've looked hard and wide and haven't found anything similar. The short ladder (4 step) is the Admiral's #1 issue.

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Response Posted - 01/08/2012 : 19:47:20

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by glivs
 Don Lucier has a five step ladder that looks great.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I wish it were a five step, but alas, it is just a four rung ladder that either the factory or a previous owner mounted too high on the transom making it appear bigger, but in reality the bottom step isn't that deep in the water.

I've always thought of making something like this...

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two port feet
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Response Posted - 01/08/2012 : 21:24:28

I always just add a three step rope ladder. I think it was on an post years back, works for me.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/09/2012 : 09:21:18

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by two port feet
 I always just add a three step rope ladder. I think it was on an post years back, works for me.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEXttVyT1A4

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glivs
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Response Posted - 01/09/2012 : 16:49:21

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> it is just a four rung ladder... <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

my apologies Don...I guess I misinterpreted earlier photos of your ladder.

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islander
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Response Posted - 01/25/2012 : 11:01:02

Well I went ahead and ordered the ladder I was looking at due to the fact that it was the same width as the Catalina ladder. I found it for $59 , Ten bucks cheaper. The hinge that I thought was riveted on turned out to be clamped on the ladder with some locating holes in the tubing. I removed the folding rung from the new ladder and simply installed it onto the Catalina ladder after measuring and drilling the locating holes. It fits perfectly when folded between the aft railing and the top of the transom. I tested it by standing on it and jumping up and down...Solid. Huge improvement over that ridiculously short stock ladder. This should prevent any future groin injuries!

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 01/25/2012 : 14:10:54

Ooooh, I see what you did. Very nice.

But, that gives me an idea to perhaps make my own. Seems easy enough with a stainless tube and pipe bender.

Edited by - NautiC25 on 01/25/2012 14:11:20

glivs
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Response Posted - 01/26/2012 : 05:15:00

Well done....

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tbosch
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Response Posted - 01/26/2012 : 11:14:32

I've toyed around with replacing the standard ladder with an I/O swim platform and telescoping ladder that mounts underneath.

Platform (poly platform w/no ladder and 2 rails):
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=13945& catalogId=10001& langId=-1& storeId=11151& storeNum=10105& subdeptNum=10397& classNum=10399

Under platform ladder like this or similar:
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=958430& catalogId=10001& langId=-1& storeId=11151& storeNum=50304& subdeptNum=50353& classNum=50354

I've done some basic measurements and it seems like these would fit and the tiller would still have full range. Anyone try this already? Any feedback for or against?

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islander
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Response Posted - 01/26/2012 : 12:59:19

Todd, I had the same idea when I first got my boat, Coming from the dark side it seemed logical alternative and couldn't find a reason that a small platform wouldn't work but the main two reasons I had for not going that route was that I never saw another sailboat with one and I also didn't want to have to do the repair to the transom after removing the stock ladder. You have to be very talented with fiberglass to have it not show. Just one reason I'm in love with the Capri 26 with its sugar scoop transom. Easy access.

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