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John Russell
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Response Posted - 12/12/2011 :  18:30:39  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Happy D</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">DO NOT LOOSEN THE BACKSTAY OR THE SHROUDS!!!!!! At least not yet. A lot of the advice you're getting is based on assumptions that could be wrong. If you pulled the pin securing the headstay, the mast could fall. A falling mast can kill somebody<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Really? with the lowers still connected? I doubt it.

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">That's exactly the point. If this newbie started fidgeting with the backstay and shrouds, she could only make things worse since then nothing would be holding up the mast. If she left the shrouds alone, the mast would not be as likely to fall since she apparently already disconnected the forestay. She needed to do nothing without supervision.
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Response Posted - 12/12/2011 :  18:41:42  Show Profile
I think I will check in at the BMW forum.
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 12/12/2011 :  22:55:01  Show Profile
John... If two things (forestay and backstay) are pulling in opposite directions on the top of the mast, and somebody releases one of them, what good do you think the other one is doing? The only hope for that mast is the four lower shrouds, which are positioned to hold it up under minimal load (no sails up). But the tensioned backstay <i>alone</i> is working <i>against</i> them--pulling against the forward lowers. That apparently isn't catastrophic, but it can't be beneficial.

Hopefully she has gotten somebody--anybody--to assess and help stabilize the situation. I predict a happy ending...
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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 12/13/2011 :  04:11:33  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
Backstay..a 1/2 inch looser...okay. Lower shrouds - right.
I can't think of anything else to add to this discussion.
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Also, I'm not into the BMW forum but if you have a Mini-Cooper, go to the North American Motoring Forum...it is gigantic !
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