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New Wave
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Initially Posted - 12/04/2011 : 13:50:26

Hi All! I am very new to all of this. I have inherited a C25 due to a tragic event

and I am having problems trying to get it ready for winter!

Can anyone recommend any links that would explain step by step what to do? I have found many links telling me what I need to do to winterize, but I have no idea what they are talking about as I am just starting to learn the lingo so it's very confusing.

I did learn enough to figure out how to remove the main sail - I actually took the whole boom and sail off and stowed it in the cabin, but I have no idea whatsoever how to take the furling jib down.

I think I messed up already... I unhooked the furler (which was still rolled up) by pulling the pin out that was below the rotating drum. I thought if I removed the pin freeing where the bottom of furler was attached and then pulled to bring top down, the sail would come down the mast... wrong! Figured there was a halyard (?) that would go up as the sail came down, but that did not happen.

Now I can't get the pin put back in on the bottom, so the sail was hanging there! I tied it up the best I could to the bow railings (I call them the Leonard DiCaprio "King of the World" railings). I realize this is a not a good fix at all because a good wind will probably pull the ropes loose and my whole furling jib will be flapping in the wind all over! So it definitely needs to be taken down. But how?

I have been asking around but no one I know really knows much about sailboats and I do not know who else to ask. A friend of mine said that she asked her Dad who sails out on the East Coast and he said that I have to unfurl the jib to get it down, but now that it is out of water, it is very difficult to do so.

Can anyone please, please, please help. I hate to come across as a ditzy female, but at this point I have to admit I am a ditz when it comes to this. I did not know I was going to be a sailboat owner and I most likely will try to sell the boat as I have no one to help me with it. In the meantime though, I do need to winterize it and for sure get that furling jib down! Thanks for any help anyone can give. And if you could please use layman words like thingamajig or doohickey, that would be great because I am still learning

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panhead1948
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Response Posted - 12/04/2011 : 14:35:56

Well if you pulled the pin out you might have to loosen the backstay to get theee pin back in. What kind of furler is it. Does it say CD, Harken, Hood or something else. Where are you located? Maybe someone near by can Help.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 12/04/2011 : 14:58:42

See if the name of the furler is on the furler drum near the deck. If you search the web for your furler brand, chances are the furler mfr will have an installation manual that you can download and that will tell you how to take down the sail and also the furling rig if you plan on doing that as well. I keep my furling rig up all the time and since I sail in the winter, I keep my sail up as well unless ...well like now, I had it cleaned and tweaked at the sail mfrs facility, so I took it off and raised up my old furling rig sail.

If the furling rig drum indicates it is a CDI furler which many Catalinas have, then it is probably a CDI 4/6 model...but it should indicate that. If it is a different model CDI, the go to the CDI website and download the appropriate manual. I have a link below for the CDI 4/6 manual and it will indicate how to raise and lower the sail (and to install and remove the furler if doing that ).

Basically, the CDI furler utilizes the forward stay. I suspect you undid the shackle that holds the forward stay and that has to be re-installed right away. Since the stay has tension on it, it is very hard to install the shackle once you have removed it. Best to have someone lean forward on the mast and then you should be able to install the forward stay. If not, then loosen the aft stay turnbuckle a bit being careful not to unscrew it totally, then have someone lean on the mast and you should be able to reinstall the shackle and then retighten the aft stay back to where it was initially or what is appropriate for tension/position.

As far as removing the furling rig sail, you have to unfurl the sail first, trying to secure the lines on the deck so they do not go overboard into the drink. Then you need to undo the short line that is cleated to the small cleat on the furler down by the deck but before you do, ensure you have another line with you that is at least as tall as the mast and that you will tie very securely to the line you are going to uncleat. This extra line we call the "messenger" line. Be very careful because as you soon as you undo the cleated line, the sail may start dropping and you may not be able to retrieve that line any longer if it either gets caught by the wind and drifts outward or starts to travel upward as the sail comes down partially on it's own.. You very securely tie the "messenger" line to the line you are uncleating. This knot needs to be very secure so the line does not come loose. Then what happens is that as you hold the messenger line with some sight tension, you start to pull the sail down and the line that was cleated with messenger line attached, will start to head upward toward the top of the mast. Once the sail is off the furler, you undo the shackle at the top of the sail and securely attach it to the pulpit or down by the forward stay is attached if you have an addl hole down there to attach it. Then secure the messenger line until such time that you will be hoisting the sail once again. Then the messenger line will be in place to pull down as the sail is once again raised after attaching it to the shackle you had secured while the sail was off the boat. Sounds confusing, I am sure.

Here is the llnk for CDI 4/6 manual but it is probably a good idea to also have someone to help you since you will need to gather the sail in as you pull the sail down and the messenger line goes up. Hopefully, you can get someone that has done this before since once you do it, it is much, much easer the second time around.

http://www.sailcdi.com/sailpdf/FF4& 6%20manual%207_06.pdf

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New Wave
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Response Posted - 12/04/2011 : 15:12:00

Thanks for your response panhead! I wish I could find someone local to help, but everyone I know who has a boat has a power boat! Now that everyone has their boats out of the water, I can't even stroll down the dock to talk to anyone. I think I will call the marina and ask if they can recommend someone who could help.

Have you ever left the furling jib out all winter? If I can get the pin back in, would it be okay to just leave everything out all winter? I have read that it is not good to do that, but if I can't find anyone to help, do you think it would survive one winter out?

I do need to go out to the marina to take a look at the name on this. I did find some papers that were for a "Micro Reefer Spool" by Cruising Design company in Massachusetts. I am not sure this is paperwork for this furler though.

If I could just find a good manual somewhere that explained generallky how these furlers are installed, it would help me immensely in figuring out how this is put together. I have not found any good manuals anywhere though. I did look over Harken's manual, but everything I read assumes that the person reading has a ton of knowledge! I need a dummy-version of everything! I need to find a place that explains all of this at the most basic level. If you know of any websites or books that explain this at the "dummy" level, please let me know! If I could see a visual on how the sail is attached and hoisted, I think I could get an idea of how it needs to come down. I

I realize there are so many different systems, and I really need to crawl back on the boat to look at the name of the system that is on there. I was hoping these all operated the same and there were "general" instructions, but I guess that is not the case.

Thanks again so much for your response. If I get anymore info on the brand, etc., I will post again. And if you know of any websites that I could get dummy info, I would appreciate it!

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Happy D
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Response Posted - 12/04/2011 : 15:15:27

As panhead said, loosen the backstay, that's the cable that goes from the top of the mast to the back of the boat. Loosening that will let the headstay ease up and you'll be able to put the pin back in. Then tighten the backstay up a little.
The head sail should have a blue or other colored sun cover sewed on it so that when the head stay is furrled it wraps over the sail and protects it. I would make sure the sail is wrapped up well and leave it up.
As far as winterizing is concerend, anything that will freeze needs to be drained. Fresh water tank if it has one. Remove anything that will freeze, beer, soda cans, anything that the mice will enjoy. Remove the cushions and take them home so the mice don't live in them.
Call a boat yard and ask them to winterize the engine.
I see you live in Indiana. I live in SW michigan and work in Indiana. If you would like my help, email me at catalina0029@yahoo.com.
I'm impressed that you could get the head stay pin out at 120 years old. I hope I'm that spry at 60 LOL.
Dan

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Happy D
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Response Posted - 12/04/2011 : 15:17:21

The biggest thing I've seen leaving the head sail up is high winds un-furrling the sail and letting it flap like mad. We have had tons of high winds this year. If its wrapped up good, it'll be ok.

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New Wave
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Response Posted - 12/04/2011 : 15:17:55

Thanks OLarryR..... the boat has already been taken out of the water and is on its cradle. My friend's Dad said that it would be hard to get the furler off now because the sail has to be unfurled in order to take it down and if a wind catches it while it is on the cradle, that could be dangerous! Oh boy, I made a mess!

I think at this point I can do one of two things: 1. find someone who knows what the heck they are doing! or 2. leave the jib on over the winter (not sure that is a good move though).

I will keep reading and learning as fast as I can, but the weather is not going to last too much longer and I do not want to be out doing this in the snow!

Thanks for the link to the CDI website. I'll visit there now and see if I can educate myself further. There is so much to learn!

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Response Posted - 12/04/2011 : 15:23:20

My first piece of advice is to find someone at the marina, any sailor can help with getting your boat ready for winter. You do have to ask but I'm certain you'll find someone quick.
2nd there is a snap at the bottom of your front (furled) sail that attaches the sail to the furler, take that off. The halyard for the front sail should be secured at the mast, opposite where the main sail halyard was secured, unwrap that halyard. Back to the bottom of the front sail, where you removed the snap. The front sail is fed into a slot on the furler, begin pulling that sail down and out of the slot. Normally the front sail is rolled around the furler when it's stored. If the front sail is still rolled up you must unroll it, when the wind isn't blowing hard. A rope on the drum will need to unwind as you unroll the sail. As you do the halyard will pay up the mast as the top of the front sail moves down. Continue pulling the front sail down and out of that slot. At the very top of the sail will be a second snap that should be removed so the sail can be removed from the boat. You want to fold this sail, top to bottom, in accordion folds and finish up with a couple of folds. You'll end up with about a 2 foot by 3 foot rectangle.

Now the tough part, as suggested you must get that pin, the one you removed, installed back into the bottom of the furler. Someone leaning on the mast toward the front of the boat might help get the furler back where you can put the pin back in. This is important because the furler is helping hold your mast up. Get some, knowledgeable, help before you start loosening any of the wires coming down from the top of the mast.

RV antifreeze might be necessary if you have a toilet and or sink.

Download this manual about your boat.
http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/manbro/Cat25manpre88.pdf

Keep asking around you'll find someone willing and able to help.

Good Luck

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New Wave
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Response Posted - 12/04/2011 : 15:28:00

Hi HappyD. I am feeling pretty darn good for 120 years! Ha! Don't they know it's impolite to ask a lady how old she is!! So I thought I'd give them an age that would make them think about it!

I am going to try to loosen the backstay and see if that will give me enough slack to put the pin back in. I am kind of wimpy but even so, I was able to pull the clevis pin stud (I'm learning) to within a fraction of an inch from where it needed to go. And this was doing this by myself, so maybe if I get someone to help, maybe just even pushing on the mast will give me that extra 1/8" I need. If not, I will heed everyone's advice and loosen backstay a little.

I am scared to leave it out all winter, but I may not have any alternative at this point. I wish I could at least put some bungee cord around it to tighten it up a little. Yes, there is a sun cover on it, but I worry more about the wind.

I'll keep everyone posted on my luck with reattaching pin... thanks again for everyone's help!

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Response Posted - 12/04/2011 : 16:19:24

I used to sail at Brookville Lake in southern Indiana. If your boat is in that area, I can help. You can email me at sailorman6 at netzero dot net

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New Wave
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Response Posted - 12/04/2011 : 16:21:44

Hi Kim. Thanks for the explanation. I feel like such a ditz now. I was actually trying to pull the whole furler down that is attached to the forestay! Doh! I did not realize that the forestay was part of the assembly. No wonder the sucker didn't budge at all! Ha!

I am starting to understand the mechanics of this now. So, the way I see it, I need to #1 get that pin back on without adjusting too many other things (hopefully someone pushing on mast will be enough wiggle room for me). #2 I need to wait for a calm day (those are few and far between lately), unfurl the headsail, unsnap bottom snap, pull sail down, unsnap top snap, fold sail, have stiff drink to celebrate not knocking boat off cradle!

I definitely need to go back to the boat to examine it again because I only saw one "halyard system" and that was for the mainsail. There were 2 lines (one wire and one rope) that were on the mast. I pulled down on the wire and the rope went up. I pulled down on the rope and the wire went up, so these 2 are definitely attached to each other. I did not see a halyard for the frontsail. There's got to be one, but I sure couldn't find it! I looked and looked at the mast and the only lines running up and down the mast were the 2 lines that I mentioned above.

Where would the frontsail halyard be?

Thanks again to everybody for all your help.

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Lee Panza
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Response Posted - 12/04/2011 : 17:10:15

Another adjustment that will help reconnect the furler is to loosen the aft lower shrouds and tighten the forward ones (read on).

The shrouds are the wire cables that run down from the mast to connections at the side decks; they keep the mast vertical from side to side, and Cat25's have one on each side from the top of the mast (the upper shrouds) and two pairs attached about halfway up the mast at the base of the spreaders (the nearly horizontal struts that hold the upper shrouds out). Because they're inclined forward and aft, the lowers can pull the mast forward by easing the aft pair and then shortening the forward pair. That's done by turning the turnbuckles, those assemblies with threaded shafts coming out of both ends, through which the shrouds are linked to the deck connections, the chainplates (don't ask, yet). The threads are wound in opposite directions, so turning the turnbuckle body winds both ends in or out at the same time, increasing or relaxing the tension in the shroud. They're sometimes secured by nuts around the threaded shafts that are tightened against the turnbuckle body. When you turn the body, you need to hold the upper shaft to keep it from turning with the body. If they're tight, put some penetrating oil (from any hardware store) on the threads where they enter the turnbuckle body; even WD-40 (something which, like duct tape, is one of life's essentials) might help.

Keep track of how many rotations you turn the turnbuckles, so you can put them back in their original positions later and restore the (presumably) correct tension in the lower shrouds.

Just loosening the backstay relieves the tension normally carried in the forestay (which supports the furler) and the furler itself, but adjusting the lower shrouds actually tilts the the mast forward. That'll make a big difference in being able to reconnect the furler.

As others have said, you'll probably want to unfurl the foresail so it can slide down the groove in the tube that it's rolled-up around. Even in light winds, a sail that's free to flap doesn't produce much lateral force, so you'll probably be safe in unfurling it with the boat on its cradle. Flapping isn't good for the sail, but you'll have it down before any real damage is done. You do need to locate the halyard first, so you can lower the sail once it's open.

I hope this helps. It's late afternoon here on the West Coast, so it's getting dark by now where you are, and by the time you read this you may have already gotten it done (I see your last post was on Sunday afternoon your time). Good luck.

BTW, don't sell the boat - take some time to learn how to sail it. Misfortune is just the other face of Opportunity, and you just might discover that you enjoy it once you get into it; you might never get another chance to find out.

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Response Posted - 12/04/2011 : 17:34:32

Worst case scenario: Take the halyard for the headsail, or even the one for the mainsail, and put the shackle on the bow plate where you pulled the pin from. Pull the halyard very tight and tie it off on one of the horn cleats on the mast. Then if you HAVE TO you can lash the heasail as is to the mast, wrap rope around it to the mast as high up as you can. It should be fine until spring, but you must check on it often. This is NOT a desirable solution but it should work.
I would find the websites for yacht clubs in the area and contact the officers asking for a volunteer to meet you at your boat. if I were within 50 miles I would come, I am sure others will step up if asked.

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Response Posted - 12/04/2011 : 17:52:07

Does it look like this, with the two little horn cleats? (The labels change over the years.)

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 12/04/2011 : 18:59:20

My CDI doesn't have horn cleats.

DO NOT LOOSEN THE BACKSTAY OR THE SHROUDS!!!!!! At least not yet. A lot of the advice you're getting is based on assumptions that could be wrong. If you pulled the pin securing the headstay, the mast could fall. A falling mast can kill somebody, I'm not exaggerating. At the very least, the forestay, complete with furler and sail would have fallen away from the bow of the boat. You didn't say anything about that, so I don't think you disconnected the shackle that requires loosening the backstay to re-attach. Just in case you did remove the forestay pin, take the advice Pastmember gave and use one of the halyards at the mast to take the place of the forestay just in case.

Other assumptions being made are about the type of furler you have. If you have a CDI furler, it has an internal halyard that is independent from anything hanging on the mast. Before you do anything else, find out what you have. All furlers are not the same.

The pin Panhead was thinking about is the pin that holds the forestay in place. I don't think that's what you removed. It's not real easy to do when the stays are tight. So, I think that you may have removed a pin that involves only the furler. If that's the case, you shouldn't need to loosen the backstay. I'm concerned that if you have removed the forestay pin, loosening the backstay could cause the mast to fall. Yep, that's as bad as it sounds. In fact, removing the pin from the forestay probably would have resulted in the same thing. So, again, I don't think that's the pin you removed. I suspect you removed the pin that holds the foil up off the drum. The foil is the gray thing that the sail slides in if it's a CDI furler. With the sail on the foil, you'd need 3 men and a boy to lift the foil up. (OK, maybe that's an exaggeration)

The problem with extending the headsail while on the cradle is that it could knock the boat off the cradle and likely damage itself and its neighbors. If you have a wind free day, unfurling the headsail should be safe enough. The worst case is if you leave the sail over the winter, it could get destroyed. Then, you'll need a $600-$800 replacement in the spring. Far cheaper than destroying the boat.

The best advice you can get right now is to do nothing. Get some help from someone with a little more knowledge.

Edited by - John Russell on 12/04/2011 19:12:52

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Response Posted - 12/04/2011 : 19:59:57

Hi All.. okay, now I'm scared! I hope I didn't mess things up really bad! There was only one pin that I saw and that was the one I removed. I did have to put a screwdrive in the back hole of the U-shaped bracket on bottom of drum and hammer the pin out because it was in there so tight. So not sure if that means it was the pin holding the forestay down because it was so difficult to remove. I am very worried now because I am afraid that if we get a bad wind it could knock the mast down. I sure hope I can get that pin back in before we get a bad storm! I will try to get back out to the marina asap with some help.

Pastmember, yes, there are 2 little cleats with rope tied around them, now that makes sense why I couldn't find the foresail halyard! I don't think this looks exactly like what I have on my boat - the whole drum seemed to be black without chrome on it.

Thanks to the help from all of you, I am starting to understand how this furling system works. Sure wish I had an idea about it before I took the pin out! Now I know I have to get that pin on asap, and then wait for a wind free day to remove the sail. I would rather not leave it up all winter if I can avoid it because I don't have an extra $600 laying around for a new sail!

I will keep everyone posted... and thanks again to all of you for all your help!

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Response Posted - 12/04/2011 : 20:40:14

All these comments will get confusing because a lot has to do with what kind of furler you have. The photo Frank posted is of a CDI furler and that is the same one I have. The CDI 4/6 furler uses the forestay and so if you disconnected that pin then it is the pin holding both the furler and the forestay. Of course, you will have to go back and check this out as to exactly what you did disconnect and if you have a CDI furler. The other thing to be aware of is that some furlers use the jib halyard to hoist the furler/sail. That is not the case if you have a CDI 4/6 furler. You indicated that you have two cleats like shown in Frank's posting. So if it turns out you have the CDI 4/6 furler...it does not use the jib halyard at all. My jib halyard has not been used in 6 years and I have it shackled to one of the side stays.

The CDI 4/6 furler has two cleats and one of the lines tied to the cleat is sort of a downhaul in which it keeps the sail from riding up two high. It basically keeps downward tension on the sail - It is a very short line from the sail to the cleat. The other cleat has the line that runs up to a block on the top of the furler and it is very important that you do not let go of that line before tieing on a messenger line as I explained in my last posting.

Of course, if you do not have a CDI 4/6 furler, then different instructions apply to taking down the sail. But now that you see from Frank's photo where to read the mfr name of your furler, you can now find out that info and then recommend visit the mfr's website and download the instruction manual. That is best way to get first hand info as to what specific instructions apply to your furler. If you cannot get down to the boat for a day or two, well then it does not hurt to review the (raising/lowering sail) instructions for the CDI 4/6 furler (link provided in my last posting) since there is probably a 50-50 chance that is the one you have and if it is that one, then you can get a jump ahead as to what is involved in taking it down. If it turns out your furler is a different mfr's furler, well then no harm done - just do not follow the CDI instructions but you then have to search the web for the specific mfr's instructions or come back here and let us know which furler you have and someone is likely to have same mfr/model and may be able to help you further.

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Response Posted - 12/05/2011 : 06:06:16

KG, As you're discovering there is a lot of experience on this forum to tap into. One suggestion that has not yet come up to aid communication is to follow Frank's (pastmember) lead. Take pictures! Directions for posting pics are in the [url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2623"]Testing[/url] forum. Also follow his advice on attaching the halyard on the mast (wire/rope) to the bow to stabilize things until you can find assistance.

Think through what you are doing and be careful - our boats are actually much simpler than they first appear. That said, note that one sail in the warm breezes of next summer and you WILL fall in love with your boat.

Good luck. Keep us posted. After you get through this initial fray, continue to ask questions. There are tons of reading materials for beginners.

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Response Posted - 12/05/2011 : 07:35:24

When you disconnected the furler, did you notice a solid "rod" or "tube" that the sail moved up and down in? I have a roller furler but mine isn't like the CDI's. Instead, mine uses a cable sewn into the sail to provide the rigidity along the forestay. As a result, when I disconnected my furler, I didn't have to disconnect the forestay, although the tension on the cable certainly made it feel like I had! You can see my furler in the picture, below. Note that the forestay is in front of it.

You might want to take the time to fill out your profile in more detail. There are a lot of good people here who would be willing to help you (as you can see), but it helps if we can get a rough idea of where you are, a name, etc.

Given the "slick" answers in your profile (age, name), are you really in Indiana? If so, I wouldn't hesitate to take Steve up on his offer. If you're closer to the coasts, or in Texas, we have several members (like me) who would probably be happy to lend a hand.

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Response Posted - 12/05/2011 : 08:35:36

If she removed the pin that secures the forestay, the weight of the sail and furler would have caused the forestay to fall away from the bow of the boat. She didn't post anything about that. Having said that, I can't imagine any other pin under the furler drum that would be as hard to remove as she described. So, she may well have removed it and something else is holding it all in position.

The key here is if she indeed removed the forestay, the shrouds and backstay are what is holding up the mast. Loosening them could be catastrophic, particularly if she's alone when she does it.

I remember a couple of years ago, somebody created an anonymous personna and signed on to the forum and posted a problem as a "test" for the membership. New Wave, your anonymity and the lack of comment about the position of the forestay after the pin was removed does make me wonder.

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Response Posted - 12/05/2011 : 09:14:01

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by John Russell
 I remember a couple of years ago, somebody created an anonymous personna and signed on to the forum and posted a problem as a "test" for the membership. New Wave, your anonymity and the lack of comment about the position of the forestay after the pin was removed does make me wonder.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">New Wave contacted me by PM, and I'm sure this is not the case. She indicated that her boat is near Michigan City. If it wasn't 4 1/2 hrs each way, I'd drive there to help her. It shouldn't take over an hour to secure the mast, remove the sail, fold and bag it. It seems we should have a member close enough to help her.

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Response Posted - 12/05/2011 : 09:23:29

I sent her an E-mail to find out where she was located. I could possibly drive up and help her out.

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Response Posted - 12/05/2011 : 09:52:14

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Steve Milby
 New Wave contacted me by PM, and I'm sure this is not the case. She indicated that her boat is near Michigan City. If it wasn't 4 1/2 hrs each way, I'd drive there to help her. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I thought C&C 35s had a heliport on the foredeck, hop on over.

New Wave, honestly there are few things sailors enjoy more than helping other sailors, so keep looking for someone close enough to come and they will.

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Response Posted - 12/05/2011 : 10:24:45

It's not on the foredeck, Frank. It's simply an extended swim platform aft.

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Response Posted - 12/05/2011 : 10:31:26

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by pastmemberI thought C&C 35s had a heliport on the foredeck, hop on over.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">You must be thinking of Harrison Ford, Frank. He flies helicopters. I drive a Honda.

Years ago, I invited my former mother-in-law (a very proper Philadelphia lady) to sail on my C25, and she asked me if she should bring her deck chair. That's when I realized that her impression of my boat didn't exactly conform to the reality.

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Response Posted - 12/05/2011 : 14:32:16

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Steve Milby
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by pastmemberI thought C&C 35s had a heliport on the foredeck, hop on over.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">You must be thinking of Harrison Ford, Frank. He flies helicopters. I drive a Honda.

Years ago, I invited my former mother-in-law (a very proper Philadelphia lady) to sail on my C25, and she asked me if she should bring her deck chair. That's when I realized that her impression of my boat didn't exactly conform to the reality.
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