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steve25
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Initially Posted - 12/30/2010 :  07:10:32  Show Profile
Looking for some help.

I am planing to purchase some of the dri-deck tiles for the cockpit floor, but I don't know the size of the area. I've searched online, but can't find anything that shows the dimensions. Since my boat is several hours away, I'm wondering if anyone has this info.

1986 Catalina 25 fixed keel

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1986 C-25 SR/FK #5427

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 12/30/2010 :  08:06:56  Show Profile
I used 8 tiles for our C-22 and trimmed to fit. I think that the C-25 cockpit floor is a few inches shorter in length.

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glen
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Response Posted - 12/30/2010 :  08:52:55  Show Profile
If you Ping Renzo he can help you with that

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 12/30/2010 :  09:04:31  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by glen</i>
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I'll save you the trouble of pinging me I just happened to read the thread. I replaced my dri-deck this past spring and <b>IF</b> I remember correctly 12 tiles did the job, leaving just a little space (1 or 2 inches)at the stern.

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 12/30/2010 :  09:06:54  Show Profile
My '87 Cockpit approx:

74.25 long, 21.25 wide at companionway, 16.75 wide at transom.

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 12/30/2010 :  09:35:25  Show Profile
In light of Davy J's dimentional data I retract my earlier post (I said <u><b>IF</b></u> I remembered correctly) the number of tiles I used was 8.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 12/30/2010 :  09:59:46  Show Profile
At 74 inches long, 8 tiles would not be enough, so I'll retract my prevoius comment also. Makes sense, the cockpit seats are close to 6 ft long. I must not have covered the entire cockpit floor - it was a long time ago - the tiles are currently on the floor in my garage.
I do remember this, however. Before you pull them up to clean the cockpit floor, take some masking tape and number the tiles and mark the direction forward. You'll be cutting them to trim to the floor shape, and if they come apart, and they will, it's a pain to put them back in the same order.
Also, if the weather conditions get dicey, don't be too surprised it they start to slide around. That's why I ended up removing them from the C22 - wasn't good for racing.

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Response Posted - 12/30/2010 :  10:23:15  Show Profile
I wouldn't put them tight to the transom... they could impede the flow of water through the scuppers or make it easier to clog them with debris (assuming they're through the transom). If the sole narrows toward the transom, that can keep the tiles from sliding back. The few extra inches might be just right.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 12/30/2010 :  10:26:32  Show Profile
I wouldn't put them tight to the transom... they could impede the flow of water through the scuppers or make it easier to clog them with debris (assuming they're through the transom). If the sole narrows toward the transom, that can keep the tiles from sliding back. The few extra inches might be just right.

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steve25
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Response Posted - 12/30/2010 :  10:29:17  Show Profile
Thank you all. Another sailboat at our marina has them installed and I've checked out his install and they seem excellent.

Thanks for the info, and for saving the four hour round trip.

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 12/30/2010 :  12:01:26  Show Profile
To prevent the tiles slipping, you might place rug backing material under the tiles.

I cut off 10" x 10" squares off a roll of that stuff to keep items like the handheld radio and GPS, the FM radio and drinks from sliding around on the decks and the seats.

I also use it under my cabin rug to prevent it slipping. It ought to work well under the tiles.

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Boomeroo
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Response Posted - 12/30/2010 :  18:57:05  Show Profile
Hi, I have just finished with the tile trial . With the keel down the cockpit doesn't drain well (if at all) so I fitted interlocking tiles . Looks great until in a rain storm coming into the mooring I jumped down from the seat to the sole (to adjust the motor) and went head over turkey ,hit my head ,hurt my ribs and ran over the dinghy,wife nearly overboard with swerve and trying to pick up mooring...Ahhh!!@#@ all because the tiles slipped . happened again with some none slip rubber under them . They are off the boat and a smart looking outside carpet replacing them until I can get a wood grate made ..
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I have replaced the anchor with an Aluminum one ,to help drain cockpit
Graeme

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islander
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Response Posted - 12/31/2010 :  08:07:05  Show Profile
Intead of the Dri-Deck tiles, How about teak tiles like these.http://www.commercialmatsandrubber.com/Outdoor-Patio-Tiles-c46.html

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Alan Clark
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Response Posted - 12/31/2010 :  09:24:42  Show Profile
How about this..Check to see where all the weight is on your boat. Its should be balanced,though with the keel down completely our boat cockpit does not drain completely until I crank up the swing keel and than the weight goes to the stern. At that point if there is any water left in the cockpit I sit or stand on the stern to drain it completely. I would have loved to had you on video though.. I bet that was a scream in more ways than one!

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Alan Clark
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Response Posted - 12/31/2010 :  09:25:39  Show Profile
How about this..Check to see where all the weight is on your boat. It should be balanced,though with the keel down completely our boat cockpit does not drain completely until I crank up the swing keel and than the weight goes to the stern. At that point if there is any water left in the cockpit I sit or stand on the stern to drain it completely. I would have loved to had you on video though.. I bet that was a scream in more ways than one!

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 12/31/2010 :  17:00:54  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by islander</i>
<br />Intead of the Dri-Deck tiles, How about teak tiles like these.http://www.commercialmatsandrubber.com/Outdoor-Patio-Tiles-c46.html
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After screwing up twice on this one I'm sure I don't have toomuch creditability left, but although the teak tiles look nice they can get hot enough in bright sun light to blister bare feet.

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glen
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Response Posted - 01/04/2011 :  11:42:43  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Renzo</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by islander</i>
<br />Intead of the Dri-Deck tiles, How about teak tiles like these.http://www.commercialmatsandrubber.com/Outdoor-Patio-Tiles-c46.html
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After screwing up twice on this one I'm sure I don't have toomuch creditability
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">This statement seem credible to me

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islander
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Response Posted - 01/04/2011 :  15:36:26  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">although the teak tiles look nice they can get hot enough in bright sun light to blister bare feet.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Bare feet are not allowed on my boat. I've seen too many stubbed/bruised/ broken toes through the years. There are way to many "Toe" hazards on boats, more so on a sailboat. Had a female passenger once slip on my swim platform and jammed her toe into the stainless hinge on the swim ladder. Sure enough she broke it and ended what was a very nice day so the rule on my boat is sneakers or swim/water shoes only.

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 01/05/2011 :  08:08:11  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> I wouldn't put them tight to the transom... they could impede the flow of water through the scuppers or make it easier to clog them with debris (assuming they're through the transom). If the sole narrows toward the transom, that can keep the tiles from sliding back. The few extra inches might be just right. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
You can say that again



I just ordered 10 dri-deks and then came back to read Boonaroo's post. But knowing his experience will help me not do the same thing hopefully.

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 01/05/2011 :  17:10:27  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by islander</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">although the teak tiles look nice they can get hot enough in bright sun light to blister bare feet.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Bare feet are not allowed on my boat. I've seen too many stubbed/bruised/ broken toes through the years. There are way to many "Toe" hazards on boats, more so on a sailboat. Had a female passenger once slip on my swim platform and jammed her toe into the stainless hinge on the swim ladder. Sure enough she broke it and ended what was a very nice day so the rule on my boat is sneakers or swim/water shoes only.
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I sail bare foot almost all of the time and I've only broken a toe on a boat once and that wasn't on my boat. I know that there are risks to sailing barefoot but there is also a risk of getting hit in the head with the boom but I don't put on a helmet when I tack either. OK,OK, Now some of you are going to jump on the safety wagon and say that maybe I should wear a helmet because of my cavalier attitude regarding the safety of my feet. But I do require my female passengers to have proper footwear, gloves and sunscreen, bras of course, are optional

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/05/2011 :  21:18:44  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dlucier</i>
<br />[quote]<i>Originally posted by Renzo</i>
<br />I sail bare foot almost all of the time...
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Me too. One of the first things my family, and guests, do is remove their footwear and toss them into the cabin. I can't recall ever having any incidents while barefoot. Starting in the Spring and into the Fall, outside of work, I rarely wear conventional shoes as I much prefer the comfort of slip on sandals.

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Harleyworker
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Response Posted - 01/06/2011 :  11:18:01  Show Profile
Same here, once summer rolls around I'm pretty much barefoot, or flip-flops all the time. By mid summer I basically am back to my cave man feet, usually from forgetting my flip-flops at the house and going to the boat straight from work and I leave my steel toes in the truck and make a mad 100 yard dash across the asphalt parking lot in mid July. Survive that, anything pales in comparision that would happen on the boat. Lol. I do keep a pair of water shoes on the boat when I want to wade ashore and explore the hiking trails around my lake.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 01/06/2011 :  16:22:55  Show Profile
I went to the boat today and I got the same measurements as Davy J, 74 inches long. Two columns six tiles long will of course be 72 inches, which will stop right at the edge of the drainage trough at the transom, leaving the drains clear. The pain-in-the-a__ part will be trimming the sides to fit.

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Response Posted - 01/06/2011 :  22:56:42  Show Profile
This is now how I cover the cockpit floor. I use a camping pad about 1/2 inch thick which people use to sleep on the ground. One piece cut to fit with a half inch clearance on the sides and cut out corners to give the drains a lot of room. A carpet carefully selected from scraps of an installation of a home cut to full size of the cockpit floor with cutouts around the drains. A piece is kept for the dock which helps us wipe deck shoes before coming aboard. The rudder during storage and travel gets to lay on the pad and gets covered by the carpet to protect it mainly from the sun. Cleaning is now easier of the carpet and the cockpit. Carpet lasts about 2 seasons so this where I am.

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Response Posted - 01/07/2011 :  06:59:50  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
I ditch the shoes as soon as possible and have never done any real damage but to each there own. The biggest problem for me seems to be the aft bunk port light. I've connected with that in the cockpit many times and cut/scraped my ankle.

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Just ran across this pic that illustrates what I was talking about. I'm just hanging in the cockpit minding my own business and as you can see the dang port light is stalking me, ready to strike at any moment!!

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