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Kim Luckner
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Initially Posted - 03/29/2010 : 08:35:57

I have a '79 std rig, pop top with a fixed keel. My tabernacle has a flanged plate with a series of holes. I'd like to be able to bring my main halyard back to the cockpit with a series of blocks and rope clutches. I sail on Lake Erie and it can get lumpy in a hurry, so I'd like to be able to raise, reef and lower the main from the relative security of the cockpit. Currently I have to stand on the cabin roof to manage the main. My jib is on a Harken furler so that's taken care of. I'd welcome recommendations of hardware and layout from others who have solved this. By the way I'd just as soon not install another winch on the cabin roof.

Seeadler
'79 C25 SR/FK #1432
Mentor Lagoons

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 03/29/2010 : 09:23:58

A cabin top winch is not really necessary, and try looking in the tech tips for suggested layouts and search the forum for the multiple threads on this topic.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 03/29/2010 : 09:29:11

Kim, welcome to the forum. You won't need another winch. This is a very common mod. Search the archives and you'll find tons of info. Take a look at [url="http://catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.search"]this page at Catalina Direct[/url]. It'll give you some ideas about the equipment you'll need. Don't panic when you see some of the prices. It can be done with existing rigging (assuming it's long enough and in decent shape.) You'll need at least one turning block, a deck organizer and something to grab the halyard near the cockpit -- that's usually a rope clutch. While your at it, you might want to search on reefing to see how others have set up jiffy reefing systems led to the cockpit as well.

I'm out at the other end of Lake Erie. If you want to see CHOP, come on out west where the water is a lot skinnier.

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Unsinkable2
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Response Posted - 03/29/2010 : 09:39:47

Kim - I'm just finishing the same project on my 77 standard rig. I bought the kit from catalinadirect.com, and it was really pretty easy. I am installing triple clutches, which are not fitting between the poptop and the grabrails, but I will figure something out there.

I was also switching from rope/wire halyards to all-rope.

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Even Chance
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Response Posted - 03/29/2010 : 09:47:17

Many of us -- myself included -- relocated the halyard winch from the mast to the cabin top. I find the winch helpful in getting the mainsail luff nice and tight. If you use that winch, you obviously don't have to buy another.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 03/29/2010 : 10:51:02

Welcome, Kim! Catalina Direct will put together a kit with whatever combination you need. You already have the mast base plate that is for this purpose, so you won't need one of their complete [url="http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=185"]standard kits[/url]. If you suspect you'll ever want to lead reefing lines, a vang, and/or anything else back, you might want to invest in a double or triple clutch to prepare or that. I got two doubles in a kit from them... (I'm surprised Unsinkable2's triples wouldn't fit.)

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 03/29/2010 : 12:22:21

You'll probably want about 8 winches to get this perfect.

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islander
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Response Posted - 03/29/2010 : 12:34:20

LOL... Peter, You know that went right over Kims head!!

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OJ
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Response Posted - 03/29/2010 : 15:46:21

Here are a few diagrams compliments of Harken: http://www.harken.com/rigtips/mastbase.php

You might also peruse Garhauer who has supplied hardware for Catalina for decades and their direct buy prices are below retail: http://garhauermarine.com/index.cfm

Ronstan has always been a source for quality yet reasonably priced hardware: http://www.ronstan.com/marine/productoverview.asp

I can understand perhaps not wanting to clutter-up the the cabin top with a winch, but used in conjunction with a rope clutch - it is very effective for achieving maximum tension on any halyard. Hand rails vary in length by year, hence the space issue (for some) for a triple clutch.

Lewmar makes very halyard friendly rope clutches:http://www.lewmar.com/product-listing.asp?action=search&type=49

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 03/29/2010 : 20:22:57

After I raise the sail, I use a 4:1 down haul at the gooseneck and seem to get adequate and adjustable tension. It just occurred to me that not all of these boats have sliding goosenecks, that could make a winch useful.

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