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NCBrew
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Initially Posted - 02/10/2010 : 20:46:09

I just bought the jib downhaul kit from CD. Can anyone tell me where I should place the 3 circle leads that the line runs through on the deck from the stem fitting back to the cockpit. I don't think I want them in the middle of the deck. I thought it came with the fairleads that attached to the stanchions.

A picture would be nice.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/10/2010 : 21:59:31

Where will your halyard terminate--on the mast or at the cockpit?

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Response Posted - 02/11/2010 : 04:37:55

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave Bristle
 Where will your halyard terminate--on the mast or at the cockpit?
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At the cockpit

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Response Posted - 02/11/2010 : 05:07:32

When I bought my boat the jib downhaul was routed through faileads which were attached to the staunchons. I found this this to be a colossal pain. I kept catching the line in my feet particularly when getting on or off the boat. I eventually re-routed the line down the center of the boat to the mast, and then over to the starboard side of the cabin trunk. It works pretty well for me.

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Response Posted - 02/11/2010 : 06:49:08

NCBrew,

I am also in the middle of rigging a downhaul for the jib. I saw those padeye looking leads that screw into the deck, and wasn't too impressed. Like you, I was looking for some lead blocks to run the length of the port side of the boat along the stanchions.

I ordered some Spinlock furling lead blocks from defender.com. Two blocks and one bull's eye (if you search their site, you'll find them). I'll get the line and fixed blocks at WM. My plan is to lead the downhaul all the way back to the aft end of the sail track.

They should be arriving today or tomorrow. I'll let you know how it turns out.

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Response Posted - 02/11/2010 : 07:20:35

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Bortiquai
 NCBrew,

I am also in the middle of rigging a downhaul for the jib. I saw those padeye looking leads that screw into the deck, and wasn't too impressed. Like you, I was looking for some lead blocks to run the length of the port side of the boat along the stanchions.

I ordered some Spinlock furling lead blocks from defender.com. Two blocks and one bull's eye (if you search their site, you'll find them). I'll get the line and fixed blocks at WM. My plan is to lead the downhaul all the way back to the aft end of the sail track.

They should be arriving today or tomorrow. I'll let you know how it turns out.
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Why 2 blocks and 1 bulls eye?
Do you use the blocks at the front and rear and the bulls eye in the middle?

NCBrew

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Bortiquai
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Response Posted - 02/11/2010 : 08:21:15

Yeah pretty much. Here's the whole thing:

On the stem fitting I am putting a 29mm Harken Swivel block. On the 2 "outer" stanchions I am putting one each of the Spinlock furling lead blocks. On the middle stanchion i am putting the bull's eye. Then on the aft end of the Sail track, a Harken fixed micro-block. So the downhaul line runs down the head-stay, from the stem-fitting along the stanchions (about 4" or so up, following same line as the life-lines) to the back of the cockpit.

In the end I will spend an extra $50 over the catalinadirect.com downhaul kit. But I really don't want 1) the downhaul line running over the middle of the deck and 2) to drill holes in the deck for this.

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Response Posted - 02/11/2010 : 09:05:02

Small block at bow stem.

I ran my line through the stanchion bases and it worked fine. Furlers need running blocks, downhauls don't.

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Response Posted - 02/11/2010 : 09:22:22

If you run them back along the stanchions (through the bases or using fairleads), I'd suggest one little swivel block on the last stanchion base by the cockpit, where the line will be making a turn as you pull it. A little cam cleat on the coaming would allow you to easily snug the line after the sail is up or down.

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Response Posted - 02/11/2010 : 18:57:50

I just got back from the marina and rigged up my downhaul. I like it. I'm anxious to give it a real live "sea trial".

I also suggest the block on the back end. As I mentioned, I attached mine at the aft end of the sail track, so when I'm pulling the downhaul line, I'm actually pulling the line to forward. This will allow me to clear the jib halyard through the clutch, which is on the deck next to the companion way, should it get snagged up. I guess you could accomplish the same around the forward post of the pushpit, but I like the sounds of the ball bearings in those blocks.

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Response Posted - 02/13/2010 : 05:45:13

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">[i] I guess you could accomplish the same around the forward post of the pushpit,
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So what is a "pushpit"

NCbrew

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Response Posted - 02/13/2010 : 09:05:53

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by NCBrew
 So what is a "pushpit"<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">The opposite of the "pull-pit".

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Response Posted - 02/15/2010 : 10:31:59

Pulpit is the metal railing at the bow and the pushpit is the metal railing around the stern.

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Response Posted - 02/16/2010 : 20:48:49

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by skrenz
 Pulpit is the metal railing at the bow and the pushpit is the metal railing around the stern.
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THANK YOU

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Response Posted - 02/16/2010 : 21:06:58

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Bortiquai
 ...As I mentioned, I attached mine at the aft end of the sail track, so when I'm pulling the downhaul line, I'm actually pulling the line to forward. This will allow me to clear the jib halyard through the clutch, which is on the deck next to the companion way, should it get snagged up...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">FWIW, before opening the clutch to drop the main, I would drop the halyard down the companionway onto the cabin sole and shake it loose to help it run free through the clutch.

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Response Posted - 02/19/2010 : 05:30:16

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by pastmember
 Small block at bow stem.

I ran my line through the stanchion bases and it worked fine. Furlers need running blocks, downhauls don't.
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I have a problem with my jib downhaul. The kit came with small brass rings and no matter how I try to attach them they bind and the jib won't come down. The snaps on the sail are very small and the line won't go thru them. From your picture it looks like you are only going around the forestay between the clips on the sail. Is that correct. I will give that a try today as soon as it warms up.

NCBrew

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Bortiquai
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Response Posted - 02/21/2010 : 08:44:24

Hey NCBrew,

I don't know if you already solved your trouble with the downhaul. I paced up and down the aisle at West Marine contemplating this exact possibility.

What I finally did was get a couple baby snaps that are on a swivel. It works perfect. I was out last week in 18+ knots wind by myself, and the head sail came down in about 5 seconds flat, no snagging.

Here it is exactly:

At the end of the downhaul, I have a brass snap. I this attach to the jib halyard keypin shackel

The snap clips on to that "Bar" accross the middle (not the keypin) and I never remove it.

Threaded through the halyard, I have a couple baby snaps:

I use the one on a swivel. These, I attach to the headstay, not the hanks. I put one 1/3 down and then the second 2/3 down the headsail, in between the hanks. No weaving the line through the hanks/headstay/etc...

This also helps if slack gets in the downhaul when the jib is up so the downhaul line isn't flying all over the place.

This thing is a dream. I should have done it a long time ago. My girlfriend loves it even more. The only thing is to get your process down. The first time we tried it, the headsail dipped in the water. Now though, I've got it down pretty good.

Let me know if you still have trouble. I can take some pictures of what I've got.

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NCBrew
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Response Posted - 02/21/2010 : 12:50:31

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Bortiquai
 Hey NCBrew,

I don't know if you already solved your trouble with the downhaul. I paced up and down the aisle at West Marine contemplating this exact possibility.

What I finally did was get a couple baby snaps that are on a swivel. It works perfect. I was out last week in 18+ knots wind by myself, and the head sail came down in about 5 seconds flat, no snagging.

Here it is exactly:

At the end of the downhaul, I have a brass snap. I this attach to the jib halyard keypin shackel

The snap clips on to that "Bar" accross the middle (not the keypin) and I never remove it.

Threaded through the halyard, I have a couple baby snaps:

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