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misailor28
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Initially Posted - 02/17/2010 :  19:11:50  Show Profile
After a several year break from boat ownership (last boat was a Catalina27) I am considering a Catalina25. I plan on getting the boat and keeping in a marina. I have found cheaper slips if I can keep the draft less then 4 feet which means for a swing keel boat I would have to stay in the slip with keel up. Is it okay for the C25 wing to stay keel up in the slip? My sailing location is fresh water if that makes a difference. For the C25. Is the mast step setup hinged at the base? I am looking at potentially older boats (70's-early 80's) in the up to $5000 price range.

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Ryan
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jerlim
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Response Posted - 02/17/2010 :  19:40:02  Show Profile
Ryan - Welcome to the Association! If you do a 'Search', you'll find volumes on the subject of swing keels, their maintenance and docking up/down. We've had Whisper 5 years, and dock her keel up, in salt water. There are issues regarding changing the lift cable bi-annually, concerns w/ the winch itself rusting out, and many other details...The $5k should easily cover you for a '70's - '80's Catalina, although a trailer may bump that a bit further...there are a myriad of other considerations in addition to the keel for a boat of that vintage...stand-by for a wealth of information from the members here-in...
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 02/17/2010 :  20:03:37  Show Profile
While there is some risk of cable failure and subsequent serious damage to the trunk by keeping the keel up, taking care of the cable with annual inspections and early replacement would make that fairly unlikely in freshwater. Additionally, if you are in 4 feet of water, then a free swinging keel would be slowed by contact with the bottom and reduce the likelihood of damage. I actually keep my keel up 5 or 6 turns because a prolonged west wind can lower the water level in western L. Erie enough to put the bottom of my keel in the muck, and that can put a lot of lateral load into the pivot assembly. Just keep the keel as deep as you can and still float free. The book actually recommends keeping the keel up, just take care of the cable. The wing floats in less than 4 feet, but I don't know if you will find one in your price range.
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/17/2010 :  20:40:50  Show Profile
The wing floats in only a couple of inches more than the fully raised swing. But as Dave said, wings tend to be pricier, especially because they are later vintages (except for retrofits).
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Even Chance
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Response Posted - 02/18/2010 :  05:22:20  Show Profile
My boat has been docked in salt water with the keel up for 25 years.
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Geo
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Response Posted - 02/21/2010 :  15:06:42  Show Profile
I have a 87 swinger and in my slip I must raise my keel to get in and out due to underwater structure of dock. When I get in my slip I lower my keel so that the boat does not roll as much.
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misailor28
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Response Posted - 02/21/2010 :  19:18:28  Show Profile
Thanks for the information everyone.

Ryan
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