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robyung
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Initially Posted - 01/26/2010 :  13:33:59  Show Profile
Hi, I'm looking into possibly buying a C25 this summer. I was hoping I could ask a few questions. My internet connection here in Iraq is slow so web browsing is a very long, slow process. Anyway, I'm sure someone out there has this info readily available:
How long is the V Berth? What is the headroom with pop-top down? I read there was a change in the molds for the deck and cabin in 1989. Can someone fill me in on the differences? And finally, I've read about the "catalina smile" on the bottom or at least found it referenced. I'm not familiar with that one. Can someone fill me in? I'd appreciate any info you could provide. Thank you.

Robert Loyd

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Even Chance
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Response Posted - 01/26/2010 :  14:54:06  Show Profile
Robert:

I have a 1985 swing keel/tall rig. I'm 6'4" and fit in the v berth. The quarter berth is also much longer than I am. You can make up a queen size berth in the main saloon -- I fit there too.

With the pop-top down, the headroom in the saloon is about 5'9." With the pop-top up, it's about 6'7". Clearance in the head and v berth are a little less.

I don't know about the molds. The "Catalina Smile" refers to a crack that sometimes appears at the leading edge of the keel where it joins the hull. I have a swing keel, so that's never been an issue for me. I suspect that "smile" cracks are related to a hard grounding.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 01/26/2010 :  18:50:41  Show Profile
Regarding the "smile"... Somewhere around 1983, Catalina changed from an essentially bare cast iron fin keel to the fiberglass-encapsulated lead keel I had on my '85. I saw evidence of the "smile", the seam where the iron keels joined the hull, but never on an encapsulated lead keel. I suppose the smile could allow water to migrate to the bolts, which are mild steel on the cast iron keels. (They're stainless with the lead keels.) This is just one example of how Catalina improved the breed over the years, and why newer versions are worth more than their mere age would suggest. The '89-90 is indeed the pick of the litter--possibly the best value in a 25' cruising sailboat ever built. But I think it was costing them too much to build--a similar Com-Pac was selling in the high 40s in 1990--and the market was moving to water-ballast for trailering.

Welcome, and safe return!

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Response Posted - 01/27/2010 :  08:28:51  Show Profile
The 89 has 2 more inches of headroom than the '85, and a flat floor rather than a cobbled up floor pan from the 70s. The 89 has modern nonskid, a real anchor locker,and too many rigging improvements to list. You say your browser speed is bad but you do have time, I have extensive photos of an 82 and an 89 that you can compare.

82
http://gallery.mac.com/fhopper#100041&bgcolor=black&view=grid

89
http://gallery.mac.com/fhopper#100045&bgcolor=black&view=grid

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