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Looking for a wing keel Catalina 25

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NCBrew
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Initially Posted - 12/11/2009 : 07:11:57

I am no longer looking. I bought a Catalina 25/

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1998 Catalina 250WK
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Albemarle Sound,NC

I spent most of my money on boats and beer, the rest I just wasted.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 12/11/2009 : 08:51:42

Patrick

While there are C25 wing keels to be had, they are the exception rather than the rule. One will pop up for you but, patience may be needed. There are a lot of very satisfied swing keel owners. The only issue is that you must be very diligent in the maintenance of the lifting mechanism. That's the reason I chose a wing over the swing. I'm not terribly mechanically inclined. and would have to pay for the swinger maintenance.

The C250 has a version that is water ballasted and has a centerboard. It doesn't have the same dangers as the 1500 pound swing keel on its older sisters. There is also a wing keel version of the C250.

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Response Posted - 12/11/2009 : 10:37:05

Hi Patrick... Can you handle 4' draft (a foot deeper than the wing keel)? That's what the C-25 fin keel draws. Since they made fins from the beginning to the end, there are quite a few out there from the 23-year run. The wing appeared only in the last 3-4 years. Starting about 1983, the fin was changed from solid cast iron with mild steel (rusty) bolts to encapsulated lead with stainless steel bolts.

For salt water use, the fin is probably the best overall performer. For trailering or very thin water, the wing is best, but it's obviously more scarce on the market. Some of our members here have waited long and traveled far to get one. A few have spent a couple of grand (?) to convert from a swing to a wing.

BTW, at the risk of starting a different topic, what do you have or can you use for a tow vehicle? The C-25 with its equipment is a load... (Think 7-8000# with trailer.) Do not take it on the highway behind a mid-sized SUV.

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Response Posted - 12/11/2009 : 10:39:00

Uh-oh Dave, now ya dun it.

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mitch47
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Response Posted - 12/19/2009 : 09:24:35

If you are still looking I might have what you are looking for.
1990, tall rig, swing keel, on a trailer. You can e-mail me at
jtmitch47@insightbb.com.

Mitch

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Response Posted - 12/19/2009 : 12:00:25

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by mitch47
 ...1990, tall rig, swing keel, on a trailer...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Ummm, Mitch... They didn't make a swing keel in 1990. Got a hull number?

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Response Posted - 12/19/2009 : 12:21:28

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by mitch47
 If you are still looking I might have what you are looking for.
1990, tall rig, swing keel, on a trailer. You can e-mail me at
jtmitch47@insightbb.com.

Mitch
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I hope that is a typo or a brain fart, anything else would be very disturbing.

Poster, hold out for the wing, you have time. In the mean time walk the docks and see how people rig their boats.

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Loren Allison
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Response Posted - 12/20/2009 : 12:17:52

If you are interested let me knoe I have a 1990 wing keel #5999, never been in salt water, indoors except for the last 2 years, brand new Nisson 9.9 electric start outboard many upgrades. Only its in Colorado but it has a good trailer.

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 12/20/2009 : 12:31:17

How much? Pictures?

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mitch47
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Response Posted - 12/20/2009 : 13:27:02

Yes I made a typing error,
I have at 90 tall rig with a wing keel not a swing keel.

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Response Posted - 12/20/2009 : 13:55:40

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> . . . If you are still looking I might have what you are looking for . . . 1990, tall rig, swing keel, on a trailer. If you are interested let me know . . . I have a 1990 wing keel #5999, never been in salt water, indoors except for the last 2 years, brand new Nisson 9.9 electric start outboard many upgrades. Only its in Colorado but it has a good trailer . . . <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Good grief Charlie Brown! Where were you guys hiding? We just purchased a new trailer on the west coast for a 1989 wing we purchased on the east coast! Ack!

Oh well, hence the challenge of matching buyers and sellers. We did have have tons of fun boat shopping and driving cross country at least!

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Response Posted - 12/30/2009 : 19:25:39

Mr. Brewer, I sail an 81 tr/sk. There are a few things that you should know to go along with all the other good advice you have received. I pulled my boat last year and moved to a closer lske. Had the bottom done, new flex furler inatalled, new keel winch installed and most important of all, reolaced the hose for the keel cable. Mine was very close to the end of its life. This is only a few dollars but will sink more boats than a dropped keel. I WAS CHASING LEAKS AND FOUND THE MAST LIGHT FITTING TO BE LEAKING. who knew? Juat happened to find that one. I had to only grind out a small piece of core. After drying all summer I filled the hole with epoxy and ended that problem. Also Catalina bonds the mast wires into the roof, so i ran a new wire from the panel to the head and up beside the vhf wire. Parts for the winch can be bought from the manufacturer for little money. I have my old winch and will repair it some day. Charley Sheets

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Response Posted - 01/12/2010 : 21:35:26

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by mitch47
 Yes I made a typing error,
I have at 90 tall rig with a wing keel not a swing keel.

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If you still have the 90 tall rig with a wing keel for sale, please contact me.
Grampy
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KiteKraemer
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Response Posted - 01/22/2010 : 19:49:19

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/boa/1556232671.html

found this 1/15/10 it should run out soon

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OJ
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Response Posted - 01/24/2010 : 08:22:35

FWIW, this has the original design deck.

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Response Posted - 01/24/2010 : 10:09:08

Hi Patrick... Saw your edit at the top (which we knew about from the discussion of your delivery adventure)--congrats! I'll suggest that you add the rig and keel (such as TR/SK, SR/FK, etc.) to your "signature" so any future questions will have that context.

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NCBrew
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Response Posted - 01/24/2010 : 15:51:12

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave Bristle
 Hi Patrick... Saw your edit at the top (which we knew about from the discussion of your delivery adventure)--congrats! I'll suggest that you add the rig and keel (such as TR/SK, SR/FK, etc.) to your "signature" so any future questions will have that context.
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Thanks. I did that I hope I got it right SR/SK
Standard rig/swing keel?

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Unsinkable2
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Response Posted - 01/25/2010 : 14:59:57

An observation on the comment about swing keel maintenance. I have found it to be pretty simple, really. Every couple of years just swap out the keel turning ball, cable, and hose. The whole process takes about 60 minutes from start to finish.

I even replaced the winch when I first bought mine - and even that only took an hour or so.

All this maintenance can be done easily on the trailer. And I really like being able to beach the boat when I need to, or when I run aground, just a couple cranks on the winch gets us free again. Also, the swing keel sits lower on the trailer, so you don't need to be in as deep of water at the ramp to launch the boat.

Just my observations, for what they're worth. I've found my swing keel to be easily maintained.

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Response Posted - 01/27/2010 : 08:22:33

"1977 C25 # 260
"BLACK PEARL" SR/SK"

Well that is about as far from a wing keel as you could get. You will have an interesting time noticing all of the design improvements on other people's newer boats. I started with an '82 and went to an '89 and the changes were huge. The beauty of a 25 is that you can learn a lot on old #260 and sell her easily to get a model with the things you decide are important. "Catalina, a Liquid Asset"

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