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keeldad
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Initially Posted - 10/20/2009 :  15:54:57  Show Profile
Anybody ever put anything down besides carpet on the cabin floor? The PO had carpeted it and when I pulled it up to clean I started to think how pretty those teak and holly soles are on other boats. I know there's some new product out there that's supposed to duplicate the look but it seems rather expensive and it needs to be permanently glued down. Any clever ideas out there? I also think that because the PO had carpeted the cabin, any water that found its way in was absorbed and perhaps that's why the floor has a little "give" in a spot. Of course, being 200+ lbs. may make any cabin floor flex but if there was something out there that would stiffen things a bit without adding height(I'm 6-1")I would be interested in checking out. The "Emery C" is an "84 SR/SK so I've got that SK "drop" on the sole.

John & Emery Keeler
S/V "Emery C"
'84 SR/SK #4260
Ocean City NJ

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JohnP
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Response Posted - 10/20/2009 :  17:22:19  Show Profile
There is <s>acrylic</s> vinyl flooring with a [url="http://plasteak.com/osc/product_info.php?cPath=75&products_id=350"]teak & holly pattern[/url], and it's about $8/sq. ft.

I'm on my 3rd cream colored carpet piece in 4 years, and it cost me $0/ sq. ft. for the remnant that gives me 5 pieces.


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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 10/21/2009 :  11:30:26  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
I've had the same factory carpet in my boat since I bought it in 1988. It's now ready to be replaced but it's never been soaked enough to cause floor damage. I can't see where a soft spot in your floor would be caused by a wet rug. I like my teak & holly but....carpet is nicer in my opinion.

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keeldad
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Response Posted - 10/21/2009 :  14:17:00  Show Profile
The Plastique is what I was talking about. It looks nice but I'm not sure how it would work in a Catalina with a swing keel trunk. Probably my best bet (and cheapest) is carpet. Luckily I saved the old one for a pattern.

Regarding the flex in the cabin floor, there just seems to be a spot on the stbd side about halfway down the length of the main cabin that gives a little when I walk on it. I've pulled the inspection cover and don't see any thing unusual. I just assumed that over the years, water absorbed in the carpet lining might have found its way into the fiberglass floor. Of course, I'm a newbie with these boats so maybe I'm dealing with a design issue, or perhaps some damage that's not readily seen or maybe these boats weren't designed for 200+ lbs stomping across the cabin. The hull seems strong in that location so I'm not overly concerned about the give in the floor.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 10/21/2009 :  14:30:12  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
I'm 200 lbs plus and there are no soft spots on the floor, in the cockpit, nor on deck. My boat is 30 years old and has been in salt water every day.

The cockpit seats seem a little weak for us to be jumping from the coachroof onto the seats. Weak but not soft.

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keeldad
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Response Posted - 10/22/2009 :  12:09:34  Show Profile
Thanks JimB. That's the reason I was asking the question because other than this small issue, this boat is strong and solid. Now that I know it's probably something specific to my boat instead of a common problem, I'll address it accordingly. (probably by living with it until someone else (like the Admiral) complains). Like I said before, it's not a big deal, just something I noticed in an otherwise solid boat.

Jumping off the coach roof to the cockpit seats; solid, weak or otherwise isn't going to be an issue. Gingerly crawling off the coach roof would be a more apt description how I get back in the cockpit. As an old and ...well-fed...gentleman sailor, I try to refrain from jumping around any more than absolutely necessary.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 10/22/2009 :  13:08:55  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">As an old and ...well-fed...gentleman sailor, I try to refrain from jumping around any more than absolutely necessary.
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I think that quote might apply to lots of us...

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piseas
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Response Posted - 10/22/2009 :  14:55:50  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by delliottg</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">As an old and ...well-fed...gentleman sailor, I try to refrain from jumping around any more than absolutely necessary.
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I think that quote might apply to lots of us...
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Well Gentlemen, maybe in years but in mind and spirit, we are young lads!
Re jumping, I used to think I could hop around my boat, even in my mid and upper 50's but after a close call to literally killing myself and another time of falling down the steps to the cabin floor putting a huge bruise on my backsides for over 2 months. And I have the pics to prove it-no I will not post them!! I now walk with the utmost care. I use 2 hands to brace myself when going below deck. I also now wear shoes. Guess I aint the stud I once used to be.
Steve A

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 10/23/2009 :  06:17:42  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">pics to prove it-no I will not post them!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

thank you

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 10/23/2009 :  06:49:21  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by piseas</i>
<br />...I also now wear shoes...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Any sailor who doesn't soon learns.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 10/23/2009 :  07:02:32  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Dave Bristle</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by piseas</i>
<br />...I also now wear shoes...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Any sailor who doesn't soon learns.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I guess I haven't learned my lesson yet as the first thing I do upon arrival at my boat is take off my shoes. The same goes for just about every family member and guest.

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 10/23/2009 :  07:46:08  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
One of the things I like about the C25 vs. the 250, and Hunters for that matter, is that there are weather decks along the cabin trunk. I don't see how movement forward in a 250 can be safe. The only drawback to the weather decks is the possibility of mashing your foot on the turnbuckles if you are not wearing shoes. I always have worn shoes on my boat, on any boat for that for that matter, for that reason and require them of passengers. It was one of the first rules of safety I learned as a boater-sailor

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keeldad
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Response Posted - 10/23/2009 :  08:45:41  Show Profile
I couldn't imagine being above decks without some sort of footwear just for the traction. I do admit to slipping off the the old Topsiders when I'm on a nice long reach and everything is going well, but I always slip them on whenever I move around. Besides, how else are you going to get that "properly weathered" boat shoe to wear to church and weddings?

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 10/23/2009 :  12:48:25  Show Profile
Pat and I both keep boat shoes on the boat and put them on upon boarding. I find the traction is greatly improved and no stubbing the toes. As for going forward on a 250 it is no big deal. There is plenty to hold on to. With a furler we don't go forward much anyway.

This year we put "traction tape" on the steps leading down into the cabin. Those steps can be slippery when wet and I, too, did a butt slide down to the cabin sole once. Ouch! The traction tape solved the problem nicely.

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 10/24/2009 :  19:36:15  Show Profile
Randy
Good suggestion! Before I refinished the stairs, they had friction pads on them. I had not replaced them, and forgot about the pads until now.

I took a slide down the stairs one day. I had sailed about 70 miles in 12 hours, so I was quite tired. The friction tape would have saved my buns!

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