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srf
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Initially Posted - 07/30/2008 : 08:24:17

Do most feel a power tilt engine is not necessary for a 9.9 HP engine or would most opt for it if it where available? My question really is how difficult is it to manually tilt a 9.9 HP on a 250? Thank you.

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SEAN
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Response Posted - 07/30/2008 : 08:55:55

power tilt sounds nice , if your at a dock and can keep the battery charged ,
sounds good .

Its not that bad pulling up , simpler system if you dont have it .

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SEAN
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Response Posted - 07/30/2008 : 09:12:19

I see your on a mooring , me to .
Im not sure what the electrical draw is , and the tilt works only a couple seconds , but everything adds up over time .

I would say look into battery monitors .
by mid summer the battery might need a good charge

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Response Posted - 07/30/2008 : 09:18:51

I have a newer honda 9.9 , and it doest always give you that 10amps chargeing if your motoring with the radio on and what ever else is on .
I was out the other day it was charging 6 to 7 amps at 5 knots calm day radio on

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srf
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Response Posted - 07/30/2008 : 09:56:32

Thank you very much Sean. Your input is very helpful.

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Navy1
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Response Posted - 07/30/2008 : 10:08:31

I have a 2004 9.9 Honda without power tilt and sure wish I had it. I'm 71 and it's no picnic to practically stand on my head, reach down for the release lever and lift up on the back of my motor to get it out of the water, either when sailing or moored. I don't know what it would cost to retrofit my motor, but if it was reasonable I would sure consider it. I should mention that I also have the factory S.S. motor extension on my transom. If I had the option to get the power tilt on my motor I would go for it!! Roger

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srf
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Response Posted - 07/30/2008 : 10:36:32

Thanks Roger - I appreciate it. I had back surgery a few years ago and I think I will get the power tilt. Your input was very helpful - thank you again for your time.

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SEAN
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Response Posted - 07/30/2008 : 16:34:22

roger I tied a string around the release leaver then to the back of the stern seat .
you could pull the string so you dont have to get so low to do the leaver .

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 07/30/2008 : 20:16:00

Roger, get this device. It will really help. I shortened the handle so it fits in the fuel locker.

[url="http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?resultCt=1&jspStoreDir=wm51&catalogId=10001&productId=50552&keyword=596965&y=0&x=0&storeId=10001&ddkey=SiteSearch"]Motor Tilter[/url]

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srf
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Response Posted - 07/31/2008 : 13:27:23

Hey Randy, I heard about those lifters. That looks pretty easy. Can you tell me about your wheel pedestel or post some pictures here. I would like to add a place for a handheld GPS and handheld radio. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 07/31/2008 : 15:03:54

Here is PennyII's set up. It has been modified to include on the port side a place for the handheld. The second pic. shows the radio in it stored location. Sorry I don't have a better pic. of the radio mod.

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srf
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Response Posted - 07/31/2008 : 17:02:34

Randy-my boat is brand new and I don't even have the railing, where do I start and what instrumentation do you have going across the top there?

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Navy1
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Response Posted - 07/31/2008 : 19:32:16

Randy, Thanks a lot for the tip on the W.M. motor tilt lever. I'm going to have one too. I also just checked today with my local Honda dealer and he will install a remote throtle, shift & start control on my boat for me (Honda equipment) for under $500. I may go for that too. Thanks again - Roger

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Response Posted - 07/31/2008 : 19:33:45

Sean, Thanks for the tip on tying a string to the tilt release lever. That sounds like a winner too. Roger

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 07/31/2008 : 22:23:26

SRF, here is a photo of my pedestal guard setup.

I have an Edson 4 cup/binocular holder, a fold down cockpit table (I built using Edson hardware kit), and an Edson instrument shelf on which I mount my GPS chartplotter. I bought the pedestal guard at defender.com (search "Edson pedestal guard") and I also recommend you go to www.edsonmarine.com and click on the sailboat catalog to see all of the possibilities.

Here is a link to my post on the installation: [url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14830&SearchTerms=Edson,pedestal"]Pedestal Guard[/url]

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srf
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Response Posted - 08/04/2008 : 19:01:59

Thank you for all the pedestal guard advice. Is this something I could do myself or should I have my dealer do it? BTW - my dealer told me I don't need the guard b/c the boat is too small - I disagree. I'd like to put a 4" stationary GPS like a Garmin 440 and have a table and drink holders as well. Any advice on what I should use would be helpful. Thank you.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 08/04/2008 : 19:06:05

Depends on how handy you are. It is not a difficult project. Really just requires a couple of holes drilled and beyond that it is assembly of nuts and bolts. The pedestal guard's main value is as a platform for GPS, etc. My GPS Chartplotter is a GPSMAP 492 and we love it. It has the entire USA coastal maps in it and they even cover the parts of Canada we sail in.

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welshoff
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Response Posted - 08/05/2008 : 10:24:48

Power tilt. My motor has the power tilt and I like it (previous owner provided). My motor is a 15 horse and is heavier that the 9.9's.

Black buttons next to the key raise/lower engine.

Also, I added a pedestal guard. Not a difficult install. Edson has a template you can use to locate the feet. I drilled (4) holes only to mount the feet. I didn't run the wiring down the guard, I went through the pedestal. The guard makes a great hand hold when moving around in the cockpit. I used a Ram mount for my Garmin 440s. Next I'll add some cup holders and a table. I really like having it - great modification.

I found my guard on ebay. It was a straight guard, but I used a conduit bender and turned it into an angled guard. (Note: the straight pedestal interfered with the engine controls. This is what led me to making an angled guard).

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srf
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Response Posted - 08/05/2008 : 15:44:01

Wil - thank you very much. Looks great. Which Garmin do you have there?

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mhartong
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Response Posted - 08/06/2008 : 19:06:09

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by srf#13;#10; BTW - my dealer told me I don't need the guard b/c the boat is too small - I disagree.#13;#10;<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">#13;#10;You are right to disagree! Besides providing a perfect platform on which to mount things, it provides protection for the compass and pedestal (and really doesn't take up any significant room)#13;#10;#13;#10;

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Mariposa
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Response Posted - 08/07/2008 : 11:41:36

I recently replaced my outboard with a new 9.9 Honda with power tilt and love it. I was back and forth on the power tilt until my wife said it would make it easier for her to sail, so why not?

Some things to be aware of:

The transom bracket, which holds the tilt unit, is big. It extends below the regular size bracket and to protect the transom and distribute weight I cut out and put a piece of ¼” plastic around the existing transom board. This winter I plan to replace both pieces with one ½ piece. I had to watch for screw head placement and cut out for the scupper.

The carry handle on the motor got in the way when tilting, so I had to put a spacer on top of the transom to hold the motor higher. This seems to work fine and the carry handle JUST clears the deck under the motor mount. The motor clamps seem to have plenty of transom to grab on to.

Turning space is narrow between the fuel locker and the bulkhead of my 2001 WK. The docks where I tie up are tight and I turn the motor while docking which requires the tiller handle to be up. When turning far to starboard, the tiller bracket hits the fuel locker before going completely to lock. This has not been a problem, but I watch my turns and take tighter turns to port when I can. To protect the fuel locker, I applied a self-stick plastic pad. To place the motor as far starboard as possible, I put in a piece of aluminum to extend the inside transom plate. I will fabricate a one-piece plate this winter.

So why get the tilt?

It is incredibly easier to deal with the motor for both my wife and I. We had to replace the old Evinrude anyway and the Honda is a great motor. My wife and I wanted a motor that was easy for her to handle. She does most of the driving away from the dock and with the tilt she takes care of the motor while I get the sails up. She never needs help.

Another plus has been an accessible steering lock/tension lever (compared to my previous motor which had a screw). I set the lever to low tension so I can hand steer the motor when docking. When motoring away from the dock, I set the tension to high. Tension must be set to high when tilting so the motor doesn’t flop to the side.

After owning the motor for one month, power has not been an issue. I don’t have solar hooked up yet and do not have shore power at my dock. The motor only takes a few seconds to raise or lower.

I am new to the Catalina 250 after sailing a C22 for several years. When I got married my wife wanted to upgrade to a boat with a head, so we checked out Nauti Duck and decided to purchase a C 250 last fall. We are both retired and have been in Eugene, Oregon for years.

I have found this forum to be the most useful of any I have looked at and hope to be able to pass on what I have learned from working on my new boat.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 08/07/2008 : 15:06:47

Welcome Jim! Folks, Jim & Cinda own the boat that Pat and I rafted up with. Jim's C22 was sweet and so is the Mariposa. It's great to have another C250 couple on our lake to sail with. We've even broached the topic of chartering in the BVI's!!

Glad you've come aboard Jim and Cinda!

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