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Chris Z
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Initially Posted - 07/04/2008 :  19:00:49  Show Profile  Visit Chris Z's Homepage
Got in my sail locker today to bolt in new cleats and noticed that there was a crack in the side of locker in the fiberglass. The crack runs the length of locker right at the cockpit floor. I noticed water was coming out of the crack. I am gather this is in-between the floor and the ceiling of the aft settee. I look around in the cockpit and can not find any place where it is cracked or anything that would let the rain water in. Any help would be appreciated.
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Response Posted - 07/05/2008 :  16:17:41  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Got in my sail locker today <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"> By this do you mean the largest of the cockpit lazerettes on the port side,in the cockpit?

Finding our where the water is entering is very important, what you describe could mean that water is traveling between layers of boat material.
A picture of the crack would help.
I'd first check the seal,(the seal around my cockpit lazerttes are constantly coming off and they won't shut unless the seals are properly positioned) then look for holes or other points of entry that could be leading/leaking into this area.
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 07/05/2008 :  17:29:15  Show Profile
Could be leaks around the scuppers... Do you have them through the transom or through the sole? A little smear of caulk can seal them up. Does your cockpit sole feel at all soft? It should feel rock-hard. There's a plywood core between the sole and the inner liner--it sounds like the liner is what cracked. If the plywood became saturated and froze, it could have done the deed. Is the water brown? If so, the plywood is probably involved.
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Chris Z
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Response Posted - 07/05/2008 :  18:16:06  Show Profile  Visit Chris Z's Homepage
Dave,

I think you have it. The water is brown. My scuppers are through the transom. Below are some pictures. I am guessing you are indicating that I should put caulk where these meet the fiberglass?
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 07/05/2008 :  18:30:37  Show Profile
My boat has the same crack. I cannot figure out where the water is coming in. My sole is rock hard. There never seems to be any water getting into the locker although it is stained slightly from the crack.

The scuppers are so far back I cannot imagine how the water could get that far forward. Seems like if water was getting in around the scuppers it would drain straight down with the exception of wicking a slight distance around the bottom of the scupper.

Any suggestions on how to repair this type of leak if the wood were to ever get soft?
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 07/07/2008 :  09:17:49  Show Profile
Looking at those photos (and trying to remember my boat), here's what I think: The "crack" appears to be the edge of the plywood core between the cockpit sole and the inner liner that's above the quarterberth, probably sprayed with some gelcoat. The edge of the liner has a dowward flange that is used to support the plywood partician between the quarterberth and the dumpster.

Moisture on top of the horizontal inner liner will probably migrate to that low area to escape. Where it's coming from is not a simple question--the scuppers are just a possibility. Another could be the coaming compartments or anything else where water might migrate along a horizontal surface and then down to that area under the cockpit sole. On my C-25 (not mine now), a brass scupper tube cracked, probably from years of acid rain, and let considerable amounts of water migrate to the bilge--I may have never known the exact path, but some caulk on my finger filled the crack and sealed the flange to stop it. Catalina Direct sells replacement tubes, if you have a tool to do the flange.

Most boats are much better at keeping the water outside of the bottom than the top!
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 07/08/2008 :  11:47:39  Show Profile
I will be busting out the caulk this weekend.

Another question, if you have spider cracks do they normally allow water to get to the wood core or are they just in the gelcoat?
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 07/08/2008 :  20:03:05  Show Profile
Should be just the gelcoat. Another source could possibly be the companionway trim and sill. Never underestimate water's ability to find its way in and sneak from one place to another inside a boat.
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