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Voyager
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Initially Posted - 07/05/2008 : 10:15:52

On Passage (C25 SR-FK), I have the porta-potty at the ready, but none of my guests or I ever need to or want to use it. We rarely take 4-6 hour trips without stopping off somewhere, so most folks either go before or after. A few #1 emergencies after morning coffee, iced tea or 'beverages', but so far no #2s. I don't plan on doing away with "old faithful", but I'll just store it dry in the v-berth.

That creates a very significant amount of space available for storage, electronics and possibly even table or counter-space.

Has anybody converted the port head area into a storage or nav station area? Any photos or examples? I'd love some ideas.

Bruce Ross
Passage ~ SR-FK ~ C25 #5032

Port Captain � Milford, CT

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 07/05/2008 : 10:37:26

Some have removed the sink like you have to starboard and put in shelves, a hanging locker, etc... I was thinking of doing that--a 25-footer hardly needs two sinks. That area is a little far forward to be a nav station, IMHO, and your dinette takes care of that about as well as you're going to in that little cabin.

I have to ask, though... Given the trip you started and then aborted, if you plan on more of the same, don't you think a head will have some utility? If you're on a mooring at Essex and wake up in the middle of the night, where're ya gonna go? (Maybe you're not old enough to identify...)

And then there's resale... One of the little details that distinguishes the C-25 from many similar boats is the enclosed head rather than a potti under the v-berth.

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 07/05/2008 : 10:46:53

Dave -
You make a good point, however, the 2nd sink area is very small and IMHO don't believe I will get much usable storage there.

I have invested in a "motorman's friend", to use an archaic term, which is discreetly usable aboard and empties fully and neatly into a land-based porcelan fixture of one's choice.

On the port side, I could create a "storage cabinet" which would be removable in 2 or 3 sections (top, drawers, front), so aside from the mounting HW, it could revert back to a head area to add to resale value pretty easily.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 07/05/2008 : 13:12:07

I think you could have both head and extra storage. Put the portacan on a slide mounted base so it tucks under the other shelving/cabinetry... pull it out to use (I'd probably mount it to 'face' the V-berth)

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Response Posted - 07/05/2008 : 13:55:31

Under no conditions would I disable the porti-pottie so it is not ready for immediate, urgent, need. There is nothing worse than a little Montezeuma's Revenge on a boat, and it does sometimes happen.

Across from my head is a nice hanging locker. You don't need the sink. Ladies like to wash up, ok, use the main sink.

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Response Posted - 07/05/2008 : 14:11:04

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by JimB517
 ...There is nothing worse than a little Montezeuma's Revenge on a boat, and it does sometimes happen...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">...especially to you guys who sail down to Mexico...

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 07/07/2008 : 03:04:39

If your trips are so short you don't require a head, then you probably don't need a Nav station. And like Dave said, the dinette table will serve that purpose.

As to storing the porta-potty dry in the V-berth to make room for more storage in the head area, why not just leave the porta-potty where it is and use the entire V berth for storage instead. Again, if your trips are so short that you don't require a head, then I gather you don't need all that much storage space either.

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ilnadi
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Response Posted - 07/07/2008 : 07:38:53

leave the port-a-potty alone,
build supports for a removable or fold-up shelf over the potty. And/or put a clothes bar up high. Great place for storage AND someone will have issues on some sail eventually. IMHO, until now they have not because you had a port-a-potty. Also, the V-berth is already more convenient for storing bags than afore-mentioned shelf would be.

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 07/07/2008 : 07:58:51

Sounds like experience tells the story here. Opinions are pretty unanimous.

I see it as being an 'all or none' proposition, however, because shelves or countertops cannot be put in place above the potty, as you need a good three-four feet clearance above the potty to sit upright.

The V-berth is currently the storage area. I've gotten several large plastic tubs with snap-on covers for stowage - one for changes of clothes, another for tools and supplies and a third for blankets.

With some netting and hooks, the tubs remain in place quite securely.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 07/07/2008 : 08:27:33

Returning to what Jim (and I) said, what's missing is a nice hanging locker. The starboard side, with the sink removed, is one possibility. How many sinks do you need? ...How many potties? I submit: one of each.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 07/07/2008 : 20:59:32

My suggestion for the head area: A porta-potti that you never intend to use (small one with a low profile) and a hanging locker set up. In case of emergency, the potti is there amongst all the hanging locker stuff.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 07/08/2008 : 08:15:53

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by stampeder
 My suggestion for the head area: A porta-potti that you never intend to use (small one with a low profile)...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Funny--Passage originally had one, until shortly after our "delivery" voyage when we filled it up.

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