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brrit
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Initially Posted - 06/19/2008 : 09:40:19

I'm replacing my jib sheets after watching the last line slowing fray by rubbing on the shrouds at dock. (I am using a furling and running the lines back to the cockpit.)

After learning that I need to tie the jib sheets at dock (I left the jib sheets loose and really tore up our genny after a pretty good storm), I now am a little concerned about the jib sheet wear on the shrouds when running them back to the cockpit.

Do any of you guys have a better solution?

Bryan Ritchie
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1989 C-25 TR/FK #5829
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Stardog
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Response Posted - 06/19/2008 : 09:50:52

I had hooks (read broken wire strands) on my shrouds at one point and tried cutting them back far enough they wouldn't catch on anything. Eventually I got tired of messing with it and replaced the shrouds. As for healthy shrouds, I've never known anyone with or without roller furler to have problems with chafing, wire rope is generally very smooth.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 06/19/2008 : 10:03:54

Sorry you had to learn that lesson the really hard way. My sheets (from a furler) showed no wear from the shrouds after (I suspect) eight years, going back to before I owned the boat. I didn't keep them board-tight--if I did, little swallows would spend the night on them--you can guess the rest. I added a bungee around the genny clew if storms were expected or I was going to be away for a while.

If your shrouds have so much as one "meat-hook", you seriously need new shrouds. It's like finding one cockroach...

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 06/19/2008 : 10:14:15

Do you have the white plastic wire covers on your shrouds (not the boots, the wire sleeves), if so, maybe inspect them if they are cracked or crazed, they could be causing trouble. I believe they are cheap to replace. If you don't have them, you may want to consider installing some.

A caveat - I am a freshwater sailor and do not know if these hold salt in the shroud wires.

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brrit
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Response Posted - 06/19/2008 : 10:21:53

Maybe I am pulling the lines too tightly back to the cockpit. After watching our genny unfurl itself and flap wildly for the better part of day, maybe I'm just pulling too tightly back.

If the line is loose, what keeps my genny from unfurling again? Do you have your lines wrapping around the furling a few times?

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Response Posted - 06/19/2008 : 10:29:02

Yes, I did about three turns of the sheets around the sail. Then I cleated them snug enough that they couldn't let the sail go anywhere, but just loose enough to keep the birds from being comfortable on them--then added a bungee if circumstances warranted.

BTW, a rigger recommended I remove the tight shroud covers my PO had installed--they collect salt and other pollutants in the wire.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 06/19/2008 : 10:35:47

We tie a couple of sail ties around the furled genny in addition to cleating off the furler line.

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 06/19/2008 : 12:59:44

exactly - we also take a short line and make a few wraps around the furled genny, in addition to a moderate amount of tension in the sheets.

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Response Posted - 06/19/2008 : 13:11:04

A few years ago I watched helplessly as my neighbor's 150 genny on his 40' Beneteau unfurled in a storm and tore from top to bottom. He too relied on his sheets to keep the sail from unfurling. An expensive mistake. He has since added an elastic strap with velcro closures. i have doen the same.

As the sheets wearing on your shrouds, I usually wrap them twice around the sail then let them hang loosely. I've never had a problem.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 06/19/2008 : 14:31:51

Here is my drill, When furling I hold both sheets in one hand like reins and furl with the other arm, I place a slight drag on the sheets by holding them and my sheets wrap niscly around the sail 4-6 times. At the dock I then take a sailtie and hitch it around the sheets, then wrap and ti the sailtie around the furled sail. THEN I let my sheets hang DOWN to the deck so no birds can sit on them. All of this leaves a foot to inches of bitter end at my genoa cars.

Best photo I have: What you see went through an 83 mph wind yesterday.

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 06/19/2008 : 15:26:41

I do as Frank does but without the sail tie. My furling line is completely extended after the sheets wrap around about four times and I then cleat it off. That prevents the furler from unwinding.

Edited by - Sloop Smitten on 06/19/2008 16:06:07

brrit
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Response Posted - 06/19/2008 : 15:52:30

Great responses guys.

I'll give this set-up a try. Hopefully will save a genny and some jib sheets.

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