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thirstymate
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Initially Posted - 06/16/2008 :  19:17:17  Show Profile
I own a c25 sr Swing keel, it is in massachusetts. I am in maine. I need to have the boat trailered up here and found a friend with a 22' Vdrive and he's letting me use his trailer. Question. When the keel is fully up what is the distance from the bottom of the boat? thanks guys.

-Michael
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 06/16/2008 :  19:54:15  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
don't know numbers but this might help.
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Happy D
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Response Posted - 06/16/2008 :  20:37:11  Show Profile

I placed the tape measure on the floor touching the bottom of the boat.



Call it 23".


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Chris Z
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Response Posted - 06/17/2008 :  07:33:55  Show Profile  Visit Chris Z's Homepage
Mike,
I could help in trailering the boat for you. I have a completely rebuilt C25 Swing Keel trailer. Send me an email and let's discuss. I am in Ohio.

I would be concerned about trailering the boat with a trailer that is not made for the boat.
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thirstymate
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Response Posted - 06/17/2008 :  17:13:54  Show Profile
chris, I appreciate the offer, but its not going in the ocean its going to a lake. and I'm going to need one for winter storage.
Happyd and frank, just what I needed. Much appreciation to both of you. Thanks

the two trailers seem to have their rollers in different places. Also Frank, it looks like your extensions are pretty new, where did you get those?
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thirstymate
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Response Posted - 06/17/2008 :  17:30:39  Show Profile
dan yours is a c25 trailer correct? and Frank's is not. I understand now.
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Happy D
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Response Posted - 06/17/2008 :  18:12:30  Show Profile
My trailer is an EZ Loader. Don't know what Frank has in that photo.
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 06/17/2008 :  19:05:59  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
1982 Catalina 25 TrailRite Trailer, factory option.
What do you mean by extensions? All of my rollers are new. All 65 of them.
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stampeder
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Response Posted - 06/17/2008 :  19:11:59  Show Profile
Frank - with respect to my thread about bow rollers - I noticed on your Trailrite (identical to mine) that your bow is not quite in contact with your bow roller and that your boat is on a slight tilt left to right in the photo - although that may have something to do with the kid standing on top. Do you recall if your bow roller was much of a factor in retrieval or if it was actually supporting any weight?
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thirstymate
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Response Posted - 06/17/2008 :  20:36:15  Show Profile
hmmm. so has anyone here, run into the issue of locating an actual catalina trailer, and modified a trailer to suit their needs? I'm an engineer by school/trade, and quite honestly by looking at both trailers, the setup I had pictured in my head was far more complex at resisting spreading, torsion and front to back. If these are what came from the factory.... this is going to be easy. Dan, your boat is sitting on rollers atop two 1/2" x 4-6" x24" galv steel plates (approx. based on the pics) through bolted to the roller frame to allow pivoting. Frank you have 4x4 (again approx) powder coated steel tubing. assumably same length. The only difference I am noticing between a Catalina trailer and a power boat trailer, is a power boat trailer's frame rails are farther apart. If this is the case as I can see it rightly is, I will then have the rollers cocked in at15-20degrees, adding emense side to side stability in the trailer. Honestly Dan It looks like any sharp turns and those plates are going to roll those frame rails over. I know this isnt going to happen. But..... hmmm ahh yes back on track. Anyone see where I'm going with this and agree? I think a modified newer boat trailer will be easier to come by easier to purchase, and quite possibly much stronger. If anyone has found a fault in this please point it out before I launch my sail boat on I 95 and find out just how many layers there are to the bottom of these.
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thirstymate
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Response Posted - 06/17/2008 :  21:22:40  Show Profile
um...... no one is held accountable for anything I do to myself or anyone else???
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 06/17/2008 :  22:25:09  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Things to consider when converting a powerboat trailer:
Keel goes over the axles so since most powerboats have their weight in the rear a sailboat will stick way out behind a power boat trailer.
The greater the distance between the hitch and the axles the easier it is to back up.
Most powerboat trailers do not have drop axles.

Here are some photos of a converted trailer I used to have, it was converted to fit an ODay 272.
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Kendall
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Response Posted - 06/17/2008 :  22:58:09  Show Profile
This is mine jury-rigged to a moterboat trailer. This isnt the method of choice, Ill admit. But it worked for aprox. 250 miles. The height of the hull off of the bunks was 4 in.
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thirstymate
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Response Posted - 06/18/2008 :  21:05:09  Show Profile
I've found a tri axel trailer. for more money than I am looking to spend, but negotiations are still in the process, and i think he is realizing the trailer needs alot. including a complete set of leaf springs. The axels are at 17' 19.5' and 22' so with this I would be able to set the sailboat back, over the axels and have a gooood length to tongue. I'd be able to easily launch anywhere without submerging my truck. hmmmmmm
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 06/18/2008 :  21:16:39  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
TriAxles do not maneuver well. I would avoid them with a 30' or under boat.
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thirstymate
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Response Posted - 06/18/2008 :  21:35:35  Show Profile
those dim's are from the bow stop....
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thirstymate
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Response Posted - 06/18/2008 :  21:37:29  Show Profile
They dont maneuver well.... Exactly what do you mean,

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thirstymate
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Response Posted - 06/18/2008 :  21:57:38  Show Profile
If you are referring to not being able to drive in a city, Once the trailer is in maine, it will be used to launch in the spring and retrieve in the fall. With My house being about 1/10th of a mile from where I launch with only one turn. Difficult to pull? I have an f-350. If I am just not understanding you please do specify.
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 06/19/2008 :  01:20:13  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
They do not back and turn well, the wheels scrub terribly as they try to turn. Two axles scrub a lot already.
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