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StSimon
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Initially Posted - 09/14/2007 :  20:49:20  Show Profile
Does anyone know the internal vertical dimension of the fuel locker on the port side of a '84 SK SR? I have a 6.5 gallon Tempo which has the same basic footprint as their 12 gallon but is 4 3/4" taller. I know that sounds like a lot of fuel for a Honda 9.9 kicker but I'd love to have the extra fuel for those low wind days when we're way out

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Andy
Breakin' Wind, '84 SK SR

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StSimon
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Response Posted - 09/16/2007 :  18:37:52  Show Profile
I was able to measure myself. It won't fit.

Any idea how long a Honda 9.9 will run at WOT with 6.5 gallons?

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Andy

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 09/16/2007 :  18:45:34  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
If I wanted extra gas I would get a set of cooler chocks with a tie down and simply put it back by the scuppers. Lots of boats have exposed gas cans.

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 09/17/2007 :  12:36:41  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
I've cruised lake Superior the last 6 years with a 12 gallon tank between the seats and strapped to the transom. It fits nicely without taking up a lot of deck/leg room. The only drawback is that it has to be removed to access the gas tank locker. I have found though that with practice I can remove the fuel line from the 12 gallon tank, push it forward, open the fuel locker, and attach the fuel line to my 6 gallon tank before the fuel in the line is consumed. The outboard never misses a beat.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/17/2007 :  15:32:19  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by StSimon</i>
<br />Any idea how long a Honda 9.9 will run at WOT with 6.5 gallons?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
First of all, WOT is just a waste of fuel. You shouldn't need much more than half throttle to run 5 - 5.5 knots, and my high-thrust Honda 8 (actually the same engine as the 9.9) consumed no more than 2/3 gallon per hour at that speed. That suggests you'll be down to half a gallon after 9 hours. WOT makes the stern squat, increasing the wake (and drag), and can't push you past hull-speed of about 6.3 knots--all of that for probably 30-50% more fuel, carbon emissions, and noise.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 09/17/2007 :  20:11:42  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Dave Bristle</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by StSimon</i>
<br />Any idea how long a Honda 9.9 will run at WOT with 6.5 gallons?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
First of all, WOT is just a waste of fuel. You shouldn't need much more than half throttle to run 5 - 5.5 knots, ....<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

What's WOT?

I was thinking of this on my way into the marina tonight. I had the throttle just barely above "Start" and was making 4 knots. I wonder if it has something to do with the ultra long shaft on my Tohatsu.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 09/17/2007 :  20:29:30  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by John Russell</i>
<br />What's WOT?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Wide Open Throttle

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Dave Otey
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Response Posted - 09/17/2007 :  21:28:40  Show Profile  Visit Dave Otey's Homepage
I don't have the dimensions you are looking for but I'd like to share this. I found a 7.5 gallon tank by Tempo that fits in my 91 fuel locker with a minor mod. The stock elbow ports to the back of the locker which has insufficient room for adequate bend radius. I bought a fitting that ports paralleling the tanks length aft. I have a Nissan 9.8 two yrs old and it burns about i/2 gallon per hour at 5 knots in calm wind and air. You probably wonder why I have a need for a tank this large. On Lake St Clair you could find yourself motoring over twenty miles if you are cruising to a destination at the other end of the lake. Every square inch is a premium so I keep all my fuel in one spot above deck.
Fairwinds

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/17/2007 :  21:49:14  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by John Russell</i>
<br />...I had the throttle just barely above "Start" and was making 4 knots. I wonder if it has something to do with the ultra long shaft on my Tohatsu.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">On engines I've had, it seems like "Start" was somewhere between 1/4 and 1/3 throttle--at least well above idle. (If my Honda 8 was warmed up, I'd start it on idle--never on Start.) So it makes sense that you wouldn't need much more than that to get to 5 knots or above. It also seems to me that the first 3-4 knots come very easily, while the power needed to get to 5-1/2 or 6 is disproportionate to the lower speeds. Thus, 6 knots becomes very fuel-inefficient.

My current boat seems to have two speed ranges... 0-7 knots (idle to 1600 RPM), and then 15-30+ knots (2500-5500). It's sorta like there's nothing between 7 and 15, because once it jumps on plane, it jumps to that second range. Anything in between is bow up, plowing a huge wake, not going much faster, and wasting lots of fuel. It's analogous to a C-25 trying to get to 6.5 knots under power, except that I have ample power to exceed hull speed.

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