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KiteKraemer
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Initially Posted - 09/12/2007 :  23:25:57  Show Profile  Visit KiteKraemer's Homepage
OMG---

Check this one out--- Does anyone need a right arm or leg. I can sell you one....

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/photoGallery.jsp?currency=USD&back=%2Fcore%2Flisting%2Fcache%2FsearchResults.jsp%3Fmanc%3D225%26uom%3D126%26type%3D%28Sail%29+Multi-hull%26currency%3DUSD%26units%3DFeet%26duom%3D126%26sm%3D3%26wuom%3D126%26ywbtc%3D1577%26currencyid%3D100%26currencyid%3D100%26luom%3D126%26ps%3D30%26ps%3D30%26man%3Dlagoon%26slim%3Dquick%26so%3D0%26n%3D2%3A-1%3A18382%3A28461%3A137&units=Feet&checked_boats=1356862&currencyid=100&boat_id=1356862&back=/core/listing/boatDetails.jsp&boat_id=1356862

Unicorn
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http://www.eclipsefilms.com/unicorn.jpg

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bbriner
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Response Posted - 09/13/2007 :  00:50:01  Show Profile
I think that is in a different world than mine.

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 09/13/2007 :  08:54:13  Show Profile
Isn't photoshop great. It makes things look so life-like. A picture is about as close as I will ever get to something like that.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/13/2007 :  09:12:21  Show Profile
Friends (veteran sailors) chartered one of those... said it sailed nicely (and fast), but they couldn't get used to not heeling!

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 09/13/2007 :  11:04:37  Show Profile
I used to crew on a 50' Prout Catamaran - went through a tropical storm in the Gulf of Mexico and was grateful it wasn't a monohull! Also chartered a 46' Fontaine Pajot in Belize last year and had a 10-day blast! (Although going 7 knots with a foot of water under the hulls is a little exciting!
If ever I went coastal cruising (or blue water) it would be on a catamaran.

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tinob
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Response Posted - 09/13/2007 :  12:17:50  Show Profile
All those photos of a beautiful catamaran and not one picture of a person standing up. I'm tired of banging my head in my boat and wouldn't consider looking at any boat whose advertisement photos didn't include photos depicting overhead accommodations.

Val on Calista, # 3936, Patchogue, N.Y.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 09/13/2007 :  13:04:57  Show Profile
Believe me Val, there's enough headroom on those cats for an NBA player to stand upright!

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Admin
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Response Posted - 09/13/2007 :  14:01:36  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by tinob</i>
<br />All those photos of a beautiful catamaran and not one picture of a person standing up. I'm tired of banging my head in my boat and wouldn't consider looking at any boat whose advertisement photos didn't include photos depicting overhead accommodations.

Val on Calista, # 3936, Patchogue, N.Y.
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Not only can you stand up anywhere down below, you could probably stand up on the settee and not bang your head. Speaking of head, I bet there is plenty of elbow room and for some senators space for a "Wide Stance'

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/13/2007 :  20:31:50  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Admin</i>
<br />...Speaking of head, I bet there is plenty of elbow room and for some senators space for a "Wide Stance'<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Sorry--only one stall in each head... No place for tapping.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 09/13/2007 :  20:39:39  Show Profile
If we ever move up to a Big boat. it will be a catamaran.
I could get used to not heeling.

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Jmurfy
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Response Posted - 09/13/2007 :  21:59:53  Show Profile
I guess the only down side is finding a place to park it! I'm wondering how does a multi hull sailboat handle a beam reach without having a fin to resist the lateral force?

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 09/14/2007 :  07:16:22  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
Got some good ideas from that site, thanks for posting.

a) Modify our aft berth so that it has steps to get up to the mattress top. (will make getting in the berth so much easier)
b) Move the head door so that it swings inwards, (saves on cabin space)
c) Get a couple of those canvas director chairs for extra cabin seating. (handy when we get unexpected guests)
d) Replace the single burner cooker with a full sized oven and multi-burner (so much easier to cook when you have the right kitchen.)
e) Add storage space under the bunks with easy open doors/drawers (useful for storing those extra sets of bed-linens, extra large bath-towels, robes, ski-jackets, slippers, etc.

That should keep me busy for a while. And I'm sure the Admiral will love the new upgrades

Paul

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 09/14/2007 :  11:14:23  Show Profile
I was admiring a 40+ foot catamaran the other day, and thought about dockage. They take up a lot of room.

BTW - I use a folding canvas directors chair (sometimes referred to as a collapsable camping chair) on Labarca. We generally watch movies when we gunkhole - the admiral reclines on the port settee and I sit in the directors chair (sometimes referred to as the Captain's chair) while watching from a laptop situated on the middle companionway step.

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 09/14/2007 :  13:51:56  Show Profile
there wasn't a price.
Must be free

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KiteKraemer
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Response Posted - 09/14/2007 :  16:03:47  Show Profile  Visit KiteKraemer's Homepage
It's roughly 1.5 million. I have a friend that bought an older (2004) 57' Lagoon and it was 1.2 mil. The one in the post is an '08 50'. A few major improvements have been made like, hard-top bimini and fly bridge. My experience on them was incredible. They are like floating hyatt hotels.

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Jmurfy
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Response Posted - 09/14/2007 :  19:13:54  Show Profile
I'm still curious as to what stops a catamaran from moving laterally? Does anyone know?

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KiteKraemer
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Response Posted - 09/14/2007 :  20:58:16  Show Profile  Visit KiteKraemer's Homepage
Probably that it has 2 hulls helps. Some cats do have giant daggerboards on the outside of each hull--big cats. They extend much deeper like 6+ feet.
Great for open ocean, not so good for coral reefs and sandbars.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/15/2007 :  09:58:51  Show Profile
I don't know what Lagoons have, but some good examples of the mulithull principle are Hobies--each hull is like a long keel--sharp and slender. (No boards.) With more than one hull like that, you get the lift you need to convert the reaching winds into forward motion, and at speed, a single Hobie hull does the job as you're flying the other one.



(Hobies can be a little tricky to tack because the long foils don't want to turn that efficiently--sorta like full-keeled monohulls.) When the hulls on some multihulls are too fat to do the job (or super-high performance is desired), dagger boards are usually added. Many trimarans are designed with slender pontoons for lift and a fat middle hull for room.

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bbriner
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Response Posted - 09/15/2007 :  13:56:17  Show Profile
The problem with Hobies is the 'submarine' problem - you get up heeling high with only one hull in the water - and get going really fast - then the hull in the water decides to dive under the water. That can lead to you pitchpoling if you don't let out the main very quickly. It's pretty surprising the first time it happens. I would hate to see that happen to this 50 footer!

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iain
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Response Posted - 09/16/2007 :  20:28:42  Show Profile
oh i would LOVE to have one of those!
second picture, port side, aft transom.

he, he.
iain.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/16/2007 :  21:19:27  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by iain</i>
<br />oh i would LOVE to have one of those!
second picture, port side, aft transom.

he, he.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">That's standard equipment on a Fountain.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 09/17/2007 :  20:28:54  Show Profile
Isn't the Lagoon the cat that has an electric motor running the prop under each hull, and a centrally placed generator to run the electrics for motoring, as well as all the other electric needs.

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KiteKraemer
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Response Posted - 09/17/2007 :  22:27:07  Show Profile  Visit KiteKraemer's Homepage
The new 42' lagoon is a hybrid. That's the hot cat now.

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