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Turk
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Initially Posted - 06/19/2007 : 07:02:53

I've done the searches and I cannot find anything in this forum about if this cooler will fit as a replacement to the original 250 "cooler". Many refer to the igloo 54 quart, but can't tell if that is the marine or just plain old classic igloo. I would like to use the Maxcold 50 if it will work.

I just sold the old original in my wife's garage sale ($3) so I can't measure it. Does anyone have the Maxcold 50?

Turk

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 06/19/2007 : 07:12:05

Turk, Just measured the original. 22.5" wide, 14.75 high, 14" deep

We replaced ours with a 5 day igloo. I removed the handles from the ends and replaced them center front and back to make it much easier to manoeuvre in and out of the cubby.

Paul

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Turk
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Response Posted - 06/19/2007 : 07:15:38

Size: 25.5"L x 15.25"W x 17.38"H
Capacity: 50 Qt. (47L)

This is the dimensions of the Maxcold 50 - seems a bit larger, but will it fit?

What model 5 day cooler is yours? Classic? Marine?

Edited by - Turk on 06/19/2007 07:17:18

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Response Posted - 06/19/2007 : 07:24:04

Wish I knew Turk, there are no markings indicating the size or model of the new igloo 5 day cooler. It does have the 'maxcold' lable on the front still.
I measured that and it's pretty close to the dims you provided.

Paul

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Turk
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Response Posted - 06/19/2007 : 07:48:27

Well, that's probably enough for me to try it. I normally would order this over the internet, but maybe I'll take a trip over to Dick's sporting goods, I think they carry the maxcold. I can return it if it doesn't fit.

Thanks

EDIT: oops! Dick's does not have it! Guess I will go through amazon ($35).

Edited by - Turk on 06/19/2007 07:55:29

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Response Posted - 06/19/2007 : 09:08:25

How long do things keep in your Igloo? ;'m lucky to get two days from the blue cooler before its time to replace the ice-even less with the temperatures we've been having recently (95 Degrees)

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Response Posted - 06/19/2007 : 12:12:11

our marina started carrying blocks of ice , they last alot longer .
Ive been getting 1 block and 3 bags of cubes ,
thats plenty for us on a three day .
we use too coolers one for food and a smaller one for drinks .

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Response Posted - 06/20/2007 : 06:02:13

The cooler that Catalina supplies with the boat is less than adequate for keeping things cold over several days. It is alright to hold ice and water and keep a few drinks cold. but more than that, don't expect much. On overnighters I'm running for ice the next day.

The maxcold or 5 day coolers offer much better insulation and subsequently a better return on your ice investment!

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Response Posted - 06/20/2007 : 09:42:29

We bought a 50qt Igloo from WM. It is a fine cooler but does not fit well in the regular cooler spot even with its handles removed. We are going to use the Igloo for cruising and put it under the table. At some point I hope to put shelving in the spot where the stock cooler is now.

Edited by - Nautiduck on 06/20/2007 09:43:28

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Response Posted - 06/20/2007 : 11:58:14

The five day cooler is far superior to Catalina original. Having said that, I agree, block ice provides longer cooling if one can live with the lack of space flexibility of the ice block.

The five day cooler doesn't seat as well into the locker space and will shift out fairly easy on a starboard tack so once again the "I love bungee guy" uses bungee for a solution.

Lets see how you no like em bungee guys solve this one

One handle needed removed to enter the locker and the lid is closer to the drawers so if needing to dig deep into the cooler, it needs pulled out of the locker... but the much better cooling abilities are worth it.

Edited by - Arlyn Stewart on 06/20/2007 12:02:15

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Response Posted - 06/20/2007 : 18:06:22

I liked how you tied the knot inside the locker ,
nice and easy to dump the ice !

Thats on the todo list !

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Response Posted - 06/21/2007 : 06:50:50

If you take off both handles, and place them on front and back of the cooler, it helps when pulling it forward to open and makes it easy to pull up at the back to get it over the 'step' to stow it.

Paul

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Steve Blackburn
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Response Posted - 07/21/2008 : 21:41:21

Hey guys been following the cooler threads quite closely. I'd like to buy a new cooler as the stock one just doesn't even last half a day. Easily available is the 50 Qt. Wheeled Ultimate® Xtreme® 6 day Marine Plus Cooler. It's about 35 inches long (cant fit in the 25.5" space) so as you have recommended I'm thinking of putting it on the floor under the table snug between my Keel casing and seat (Paul care to comment please?). It's 14" wide. I'll add shelves in the current cooler space Nautiduck Style®.

I'm thinking the wheels will make a big difference as what we carry can be heavy sometimes. It's on sale till Saturday for $69 and looks like a good deal. Or maybe I should go for an igloo instead?

Also wondered if you guys tried those artificial ice packs instead of real ice? They don't keep anyting cool in my elcheapo stock cooler even though I used about 4-5, but was wondering if it would do in these high performance ones?

Edited by - Steve Blackburn on 07/22/2008 01:04:44

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Response Posted - 07/21/2008 : 21:52:32

Try this site -->> http://www.academy.com/index.php?page=content&target=products/outdoors/camping/maxcold_coolers&start=0&selectedSKU=0222-01260-3018

My Maxcold kept ice in it for 4 1-/2 days while sitting under the bed cover of my truck 24 hours a day in 95 degree afternoon heat.

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Response Posted - 07/22/2008 : 06:38:05

I use the Xtreme on wheels pictured in Steve's post. It is far better than stock at holding ice. Obviously, it doesn't fit in the original location. Typically, there are two of us on a trip, so it goes in the aft berth area with other containers for utensils etc. It does fit by lifting it into the aft area, but now that my stairs are offset, that's much easier. My other consideration were the wheels. I envisioned a long walk down a dock carrying 40-50 lbs, sweating, straining back, tripping on a deck board, you get the picture.

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Response Posted - 07/22/2008 : 08:34:15

Steve,
I think that's the same one we originally bought, and it turned out it didn't fit well under the table. We bought the next size down, and it fits great between the keel post & the settees. If we go on a long trip, we can bring both, but for weekenders, the next size down (which unfortunately doesn't have the wheels) works well for us. I found one of those collapsible hand trucks for $50 at Boater's World & use it to move the cooler down to the marina. The original "cooler" we use for storing dishes & cookware.

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Response Posted - 07/22/2008 : 15:30:08

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Turk
 I've done the searches and I cannot find anything in this forum about if this cooler will fit as a replacement to the original 250 "cooler". Many refer to the igloo 54 quart, but can't tell if that is the marine or just plain old classic igloo. I would like to use the Maxcold 50 if it will work.

I just sold the old original in my wife's garage sale ($3) so I can't measure it. Does anyone have the Maxcold 50?
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

We're using the West Marine Ultra Cold 50 (WM number 137294), and it's working pretty well. Best of all, this is on sale at WM right now for $42; we paid $70!

The fit is snug (in our 2008 C-250), and not perfectly "square", but we're happy with it. Underway there's been no movement, even in rough conditions without any external straps or lines to secure it.

In terms of width, it seems to be perfect - it gently but snugly slides into place, even with the handles on the sides. I measured the available width in the C-250 galley as 25 1/4", but I haven't actually measured the cooler itself.

We keep the cooler in the location intended by Catalina for this purpose; the lid can only be opened about 20-30 degrees (about 4-5"), but this is sufficient to fetch a drink. For loading/unloading, we have to pull it out (usually to the cockpit or dock).

The insulation is of the "extra thick" variety, which is much better than the standard coolers provided by Catalina as stock equipment. It seems to keep ice (especially blocks) for 3-4 days or more. In August we'll spend a couple of weeks on the boat, and I'll be able to give you a better idea of the maximum ice life expectancy.

Good luck, and please let us know what you go with.

Thanks,
Martin

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Steve Blackburn
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Response Posted - 07/22/2008 : 19:01:02

I'm torn between buying the wheeled one or the one that fits under the galley. The downside to the bigger wheeled one is that I would need to put it between the CB casing and seat (kind of in the way). I sail mostly on weekends for 1.5 days. So I think the convenience of having it out of the way is attractive. However I read that people buying this better Igloo cooler end up putting it in the middle of the cabin anyways because stuff is hard to fetch when under the galley?

If I'm going to end up putting it in the middle of the cabin anyways, then I would rather buy that bigger Coleman wheeled one. If it is ok to use it under the galley then I would rather get the Igloo.

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Response Posted - 07/23/2008 : 16:13:32

My PO built 2 shelves where the cooler would go and there is no way I would remove them. They come in very handy for storage. I put my cooler under the table when underway and at nites in the cockpit. Even though the WM is a great deal for $42, I am still considering the thermo electric cooler Jim B mentioned, since the original space for the cooler is not an option for me. I would love to get both but the admiral is bugging me to dump one of my 4 gas containers. I already have 2 small and 1 large Igloo. Maybe I could get rid of one Igloo and one gas container, but thats it!
Why is life so hard?
Steve A

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 07/23/2008 : 18:55:05

I removed to Catalina cooler and replaced it with one of the igloo 5 day coolers. I followed Paul's idea and removed the handles off the sides and put one on the back and one on the front(opposite corners). This allows the cooler to fit in the original spot pretty good. Yes it don't open as wide but you still can get in it. You still have handles to pull it out and drain it, etc.

If we go on a extended trip I take another cooler like it and put it on the cabin sole so to have double cooler space. But for 1 or 2 days I like cooler in it original location.

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Response Posted - 07/24/2008 : 20:03:10

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Tom Potter
 Yes it don't open as wide but you still can get in it.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Tom, I can't quite picture that! Could you ask Cindy to take a pic while you're in there?

Paul

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Response Posted - 07/29/2008 : 16:07:10

we have the igloo 50 5 day cooler. we keep it on the gas locker. perfect height for the captain to sit or lean on while sailing. we might get 2 days out of the ice, probably because it sits in the sun. but i doubt any cooler would keep ice 5 days. (even though that is what it is advertised to do). we have a microwave and a storage basket where the origional cooler was.

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Response Posted - 07/31/2008 : 18:47:37

It's easy to make your own block ice if you have the freezer space at home. Get a pan smaller than your cooler and fill it with 3-4" of water and freeze it. After it's frozen, remove from the pan and put it in the cooler. Then put food and drinks on top. Things you don't want to get wet can go into zip-lock freezer baggies.
Also, use Gatorade or other drink bottles, almost fill with water and freeze. They can be placed around food and provide cold drinking water as the ice inside melts.

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Response Posted - 07/31/2008 : 19:01:03

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Then put food and drinks on top.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

You actually want to put your ice on top, cold flows downhill. Having your food on top won't get the most benefit from the cooling effect of the ice. The best thing you can do is pre-chill everything that's going into the cooler so that the ice is only maintaining temperature, not trying to cool things down. The ice will last much longer if you do.

Blocks of ice last far longer than cubes simply because they have a lower surface area to volume ratio (same reason whales & dolphins are shaped the way they are, to preserve heat). The cubes have much more of their surfaces exposed to higher temps than blocks do, so they melt faster, which exposes more, etc. The perfect block of ice would be spherical to reduce the ratio to it's smallest possible value, but spheres are hard to make.

When you're making blocks of ice (we use plastic milk jugs), only fill them about 3/5 full or so to allow for the 30% expansion rate of the ice. Plus as the ice melts, the water stays contained in the jugs, which helps keep your stuff dry.

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