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delliottg
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Initially Posted - 04/11/2007 : 13:05:08

I noticed all the new forums today, but think we're missing one. My wife likes reading through the posts occasionally but doesn't feel comfortable making or replying to any posts herself. This is a predominantly male forum, how about a forum for the distaff side of our crews? I think if we had a forum that was aimed towards women, we might get far more of our wives, girlfriends, and daughters involved in our sport. We're always looking for more participation, and potentially ignoring half our audience.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 04/11/2007 : 13:36:51

We could have topics like "How to please the captain" and "Nautical Nighties."

Just kidding Admiral!!

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 04/11/2007 : 14:01:30

I'll bring it up at the next meeting - but I don't think we should start dividing things up by gender. What's next - a stinkboat forum for Bristle?

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saribella
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Response Posted - 04/11/2007 : 17:49:12

Call it the Admiral's Corner?..........uh Don't tell my wife I wrote this.

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ilnadi
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Response Posted - 04/12/2007 : 11:24:40

to be honest I thought the Admiralty forum was for the admirals.

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 04/12/2007 : 11:47:14

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Duane Wolff
 What's next - a stinkboat forum for Bristle?
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Don't worry, I'll go over to Boater's World soon...

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 04/12/2007 : 12:05:15

Maybe call it the "Spouse's Corner".

That way it could be either male or female and it does not limit the subject matter but seems to have the non-Admiral focus to it.

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 04/12/2007 : 14:38:56

I hope that this is all being discussed toungue-in-cheek. I mean, seriously, I hope that you guys are not really considering setting up a "women's only" forum. Doing that would not only hyper-extend the culture of Political Corectness in to the sailing world (The last bastion of rugged individualism), but it would also marginalize and demean any contribution made by woman. There is nothing inherently "male" about this forum, it's content or the language used. I think everyone is hesitant the first few times they post a question or a response. Just as everyone is uncomfortable the first time they take the helm in a gale or dock the boat in a cross wind or start their first race, but you have to get over it or you'll never become a sailor. I don't mean to start a lengthy discussion about the plight of woman in America and I don't mean offend anyone. It's just that I had always thought that sailing and sailors were above this sort of thing.

To quote an old saying:
<center>"When you're at sea
it's not what you say
and who know's who
but what you know
and what you do"
</center>
Another old sailor's saying that I think applies here and that many of you have, nodoubt, heard is:
<center>"There is nothing to it
but to do it"</center>

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saribella
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Response Posted - 04/12/2007 : 16:41:55

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Nautiduck
 We could have topics like "How to please the captain" and "Nautical Nighties."

Just kidding Admiral!!

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And change your username to NAUGHTYDUCK?

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saribella
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Response Posted - 04/12/2007 : 16:46:11

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Renzo
 I hope that this is all being discussed toungue-in-cheek. I mean, seriously, I hope that you guys are not really considering setting up a "women's only" forum. Doing that would not only hyper-extend the culture of Political Corectness in to the sailing world (The last bastion of rugged individualism), but it would also marginalize and demean any contribution made by woman. There is nothing inherently "male" about this forum, it's content or the language used. I think everyone is hesitant the first few times they post a question or a response. Just as everyone is uncomfortable the first time they take the helm in a gale or dock the boat in a cross wind or start their first race, but you have to get over it or you'll never become a sailor. I don't mean to start a lengthy discussion about the plight of woman in America and I don't mean offend anyone. It's just that I had always thought that sailing and sailors were above this sort of thing.

To quote an old saying:
<center>"When you're at sea
it's not what you say
and who know's who
but what you know
and what you do"
</center>
Another old sailor's saying that I think applies here and that many of you have, nodoubt, heard is:
<center>"There is nothing to it
but to do it"</center>
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I totally agree, and I think you should post your statements as a new thread over at sailing anarchy.

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 04/12/2007 : 17:54:16

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by saribella

I totaly agree, and I think you should post your statements as a new thread over at sailing anarchy<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Oh! Dear me! No! I'd be ever so frightened of those big, bad, hairy sailor men. I'd rather chat with you nice boys in your blue blazers and white shorts.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 04/12/2007 : 17:58:36

The primary purpose of this Association is to serve its members, and if it's members want a women's forum, then we should have one. That having been said, I don't think we should have a forum for women unless women want one, and will actively use it. Sailnet has a women's forum, and women don't use it, although many women use all the other sailnet forums. Every once in a while, someone posts a suggestion that we "revive" the women's forum, but it soon dies again. I think what's happening is that, women who are really interested in sailing want to chat about sailing on all the open forums. If they really aren't interested in sailing, then they don't have any interest in chatting with other women with whom they aren't acquainted, and have no common interests. If the Catalina women want and would actively use a women's forum, they should make their interest known in this thread, and if it looks like there's enough interest to sustain a special forum, then the officers should consider it. I don't think we should have a forum with cobwebs all over it, and that includes the newly created ones. If we want to keep them, we should use them.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 04/12/2007 : 18:04:49

Those aren't all hairy men. People like Sailorchick and Bowwench post quite frequently too. The one has a tagline of sailing gets me wet...Whether or not they are hairy women, well that remains to be seen...

and as they say over there Pics or it didn't happen!

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 04/12/2007 : 21:14:49

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Duane Wolff
 "sailing gets me wet"<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 04/13/2007 : 07:55:56

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The primary purpose of this Association is to serve its members, and if it's members want a women's forum, then we should have one.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I agree. In fact, if I wasn't sure that I would be accused of male chauvanism I would propose starting a new SONS OF COLUMBUS forum for the exclusive use of curmudgeonly male sailors of Italian heritage.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 04/13/2007 : 09:31:24

Renzo, I was thinking about suggesting a forum for "Everyone Who Feels left Out," but nobody would want to admit to being in that group.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 04/13/2007 : 09:46:41

I'm with Renzo and Steve--my Admiral enjoyed sailing--she hated listening to the mainsheet tackle rattling when we were becalmed and rocking--but the boat was my thing. She had her "things"... So she wouldn't have used the C-25 forum (also my thing), and she would have had no interest in meeting other faceless people who felt the same way, or identifying herself as somebody who wasn't all that interested. I think either you are or you aren't.

Now, without implying anything about genders, anybody could start a recipe thread on the Cruising forum...

Edited by - Dave Bristle on 04/13/2007 09:50:42

Renzo
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Response Posted - 04/13/2007 : 13:55:18

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Now, without implying anything about genders, anybody could start a recipe thread on the Cruising forum... <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I Just did !!

Go check it out

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