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Dave Otey
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Initially Posted - 10/01/2006 : 05:44:30

It has been a good first summer in our C25 this year. Now the project season begins. I will be replacing my motor bracket this fall and I'd like some advice from the members regarding the best bracket for the job. I have a 9.8Hp Nissan. One feature I am looking for is a bracket with the greatest range of travel.Any advice on the best overall bracket would be greatly appreciated.

How does the bracket fron Catalina stack up to the competition

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Dave Otey
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Hull 6029 '91 TR FK Clinton Township, MI
Member at Large Clinton River Catalina Association
Fleet #3
Sail on Lake St Clair

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/01/2006 : 10:28:20

The Catalinadirect.com 4 spring was designed specifically for your boat, there is no better travel nor better fit for your boat. The only other contender is the big unit from Garelick but all of its travel is in the up direction, it is horizontal in the down position without modifications. You will find photos of both on my site as I have installed both.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 10/01/2006 : 10:31:31

I recommend the Garhauer mount...
(It's the one available through Catalina Direct).

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Justin
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Response Posted - 10/01/2006 : 19:49:02

I also recommend the Garhauer from Catalina Direct! I posted a thread way back earlier in the year asking about which I should buy and this was the most recommended one. It fits with your original mounting holes, so it's easy to install. I have a '98 Honda 15hp outboard which is around 115lbs and I bought the 4 spring model. It is easy to lift with this new mount.

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Jmurfy
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Response Posted - 10/01/2006 : 23:04:56

Same here on the Garhauer from CD! It was also easy to install myself last winter.

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sweetcraft
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Response Posted - 10/01/2006 : 23:10:48

I did the CD for the mount for the Honda 15 and it works great.

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Dave Otey
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Response Posted - 10/02/2006 : 05:59:00

I want to thank all of you for your input. It looks unanimous...the 4 spring from Catalina Direct is what I'll buy.

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danandlu
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Response Posted - 10/02/2006 : 08:24:48

Depending upon the weight of your motor the 4 spring may be too much. According to Catalina Direct when I purchased my mount (and backing brackets) the 3 spring version would be better suited to the weight of my Tohatsu 9.8. In actual use my 3 spring seems to be "in balance" - if not for the friction of the assembly the motor would almost feel weightless going up and down. I have only used the deepest setting a couple of times. It's plenty deep, when underway on the lowest setting the head of the motor with a couple of inches to spare is all that's out of the water.

It mounted nearly perfectly using the existing holes.

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Jonathan Cuff
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Response Posted - 10/02/2006 : 09:36:05

I am in the process of upgrading from a Honda 5hp 20" to a Honda 9.9 25". PS2 currently has the original motor bracket. I was intending to get the Garelick 4 stroke motor mount which is rated to 169lbs #71090, but from what's being said the Garhauer one seems to be a better bet. Can anyone tell me the differences between the two please?

Cheers Jonathan

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 10/02/2006 : 11:32:43

Let me reiterate what Dan said. I purchased the 3 spring Garhauer mount from Catalina Direct and mounted an 88 lb. Honda 8hp long shaft engine on it. You have to give it a good shove to get it to the lower setting. You will have a difficult time with the 4 spring model unless you engines weight is sufficient to overcome the spring tension. They list the appropriate weights on their website. You should match the correct model to your engine weight.
4 spring - over 95 Lbs.
3 spring - 80 - 95 Lbs.
2 Spring - Less then 80 Lbs.

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Jonathan Cuff
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Response Posted - 10/02/2006 : 13:42:04

Looks like at 108lbs I'm 4 spring then!

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 10/02/2006 : 15:33:15

Jonathan,

I went with the 4 spring bracket from Garhauer and the 2006 Honda 9.9Hp 25" shaft model earlier in the year. Bracket is fine and motor runs great !

Some of my website photos have the new combo - I still have a block and pulley attached (left over from the old motor and old 2 spring bracket). I do not use it to pull the motor up. I just left it on as a safety in case the motor support handles become loose.

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Jonathan Cuff
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Response Posted - 10/02/2006 : 16:12:34

Thanks for that info. Your website info will be really helpful.

Cheers Jonathan

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Jmurfy
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Response Posted - 10/02/2006 : 18:32:20

Jonathan, I looked at the Garelick also but decided against it because it would require drilling new holes in the transom. Additionally, I saw postings from others about the bracket not being able to go down past horizontal. I dont remember all the details. I'm very happy with the Garhauer. Dont bother with the bolt kit though from CD. 2 of the 4 stainless bolts will be to short if you mount the bracket on plastic board to help distribute the load on both sides of the transom. Just go to West Marine for the bolts and board.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/02/2006 : 18:57:42

Dave, you don't need to reinforce your transom, you have one of the last 25s built, its transom is much stronger than the earlier boats. So much so that I don't know what I will do if I ever need to through bolt the top gudgeon, I don't think an access port will work.

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Jonathan Cuff
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Response Posted - 10/02/2006 : 20:25:05

Thanks for all the info guys. I have a 1987 so I'm not sure if I have a "beefed up" transom or not. I guess it won't hurt to put a backing plate on since the engine is a lot heavier and develops a lot more power.

I won't order the bolt set though- thanks JMurfy. I don't want to drill new holes.

Cheers Jonathan

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dnorth
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Response Posted - 10/04/2006 : 13:03:24

I am getting ready to install a new 3 spring Garelick on my transom. What kind of plastic board do you recommend for adding support to the transom? How thick? How big should it be? Does it need to be on inside and outside of the transom? Do you use some adhesive to install it or just bolt it on?

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Ben
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Response Posted - 10/04/2006 : 13:36:23

Dave and all others interested...

I bought the big Garelick mount. It was the best choice at the time because the Garhauer wasn't available yet, if I remember correctly. I also have the Tohatsu 9.8 4 stroke. If I had the choice now, I probably would have gone with the Garhauer, not because there's any problem with my Garelick, but simply because what everyone has said about the Garhauer being designed specifically with the C25 in mind.

I really do love my Garelick however. The range of travel is plenty for me and I didn't ahve to modify the mount itself. I can operate the engine fine with the mount in the second to last slot, largely because when under engine power the stern squats some. When the mount is lowered completely, the head of the motor is really close to the water.

I did put a 1/4" or 1/2" piece (can't remember which) of starboard on the outside of the transom and the inside of the transom. The outside board to put the motor aft just a little bit to avoid any tilting problems, and the board on the inside to distribute the pressure points on the transom. This I did based I think on Frank Hopper's recommendation.

No matter what mount you choose, it's nice that the Garhauer and Garelick mounts are available to us.

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