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Frank Hopper
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Initially Posted - 09/23/2006 : 20:33:11

I just met a couple here at our club that is trading their Macgragor 25 in on an 83 Capri 30. I invited him to come on the forum, I know you all will be a great help to him. He takes delivery in a couple of weeks.

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Ericson33
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Response Posted - 09/24/2006 : 00:47:11

Frank, I would be happy to awnser any questions that the new owners might have, but the boats are a little different in the rigging. The Capri 30 is a bigger sister of the 25 in many ways, but the double spreader rig, and the keel mounted mast make the boat a whole different sailing feeling. I would have them contact John Kirtz thru his site, he is a very friendly person to talk with and I think he would love to be able to talk more about the Capri 30 with another owner. Here is the url

http://www.tqci.net/~jkriz/Capri30.html

He has been a member of the yahoo site for as long as I could remember.

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 09/24/2006 : 05:44:38

I may change my rigging to go down to the hull like a 30. That's a great improvement to our boats.

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 10/27/2006 : 14:45:08

Rick,

If you're thinking of changing your rig to a keel-stepped mast, step back and think about trailering your boat. Getting the mast stepped and unstepped would be a nightmare without a crane.

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 10/27/2006 : 18:28:00

The standing rigging, not the mast. It's been done successfully on a number of Capri's. I feel my sailing was almost reaching the limit of the equipment on my boat this year. I don't want to not go out when it's blowing more than 25 kts. That may not be technically the limit on a Capri, but you can hear and see the strain on the boat when it's above theat level. Although no amount of modification would get me out in tomorrows wind, they are talking 60 kts, glad my boat is tucked in 3 miles up the river and off her mooring.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/27/2006 : 19:50:57

The Catalina 25s had chainplate upgrades over the life span of the design and some have upgraded the standing rigging. I would guess that a blue water cruising Capri 25 would be a prime candidate for a rig redesign, the J-24 is very successful with a keel stepped mast. If you stay in the water then the hassles of the keel step are pretty much negated, lots of boats need their masts raised and there should be that capacity around. I wonder if you could buy a salvage J-24 rig and modify the boat for the keel step. A few S2 7.9s were produced with keel stepped masts because they were MORC boats.

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 10/28/2006 : 18:50:41

Frank,

I don't think changing the Capri from a masthead rig to a fractional is within the scope of either my abilities, desires or budget. I just want to firm her up so I'm not as likely to loose my rig off Monhegan on my way to Yarmouth NS.

By the way, the gusts off Cape Elizabeth today were at 70 kts. I spent the afternoon at the boatyard that is hauling Swimmer tending the docks and keeping the boats secure. Met some great people in the process, amazing how the boating world is such an equalizer!

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dontluff
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Response Posted - 11/13/2006 : 18:47:46

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com
 because they were MORC boats.
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A quick clarification: I only ever raced my Capri in MORC (and then PHRF after MORC died). There was nothing in the MORC measurement rule about deck or keel stepped masts other than under the safety rules requiring a keel stepped mast to be attached to the boat at the butt end.

Frankly, I don't see how keel stepping the mast will make the Capri 25 any faster or permit better mast prebend. If anything it raises more issues of waterproofing the coachroof with a decent mast boot,ensuring the deck core is properly waterproofed and the partners lined, safety in the event of a rigging failure, stepping and unstepping...etc....etc...

I went away from the double lower shrouds to single lowers and a babystay because the babystay controlled mast bend upwind any time you needed it and very simply. It also worked a treat to control power on heavy air beam reaches.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 11/13/2006 : 20:39:53

My reply was based on the question of how to make the Capri 25 safer for off shore sailing. I did not mean to imply the keel stepped mast was required by MORC rules, (I would not know), it was simply a design change the 7.9 designers believed made the boats more seaworthy/competitive. One of them is for sale forever on sailingtexas.com.
http://www.sailingtexas.com/ss279d.html

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