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ddlyle
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Initially Posted - 08/30/2006 : 20:13:00

It could have been much worse.
Went down to the boat and saw the rudder kinda' floatin' and hanging by the upper pintle.
Thank goodness my slip is very quite behind a private lock.
I guess my last sail was the final straw.
It was surely good though.

Here's the question
Is it possible to replace the lower gudgeon while my boat is in the water?
I guess I'd either have to have someone in a dinghy, or with long arms to help from the outside while I'm in the quarterberth.
It looks like the welded on part just broke off.
The plate next to the hull, and the bolts are still there when seen from the quarterberth.

I can have it hauled out, but I wondered if it was possible.
Thanks for any input.

PS. I know I should buy a balanced rudder, but I'm going to sell her soon and hate to spend the $500 +/-

Cap'n Dave
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1986 C25 sr/sk #5413

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 08/30/2006 : 20:25:12

Yes it is above water.

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djn
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Response Posted - 08/30/2006 : 21:27:08

Hi Cap, I replaced both of them last winter and some time ago, the little black plastic bushing broke and fell out. CD said that they had a bad batch and I just got the replacements in the mail today and will replace them tomorrow. I was at the boat today and determined that I will have to be in a dingy to deal with the bottom one. No way around it. For the price of a haul out you could probably buy a used dingy. Cheers.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 08/31/2006 : 09:23:18

Back in to the slip?

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bbriner
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Response Posted - 08/31/2006 : 11:49:38

Dave
I just replaced my lower gudgeon at the dock. When you are not sailing the lower gudgeon should be above water. Since I normally go bow in to my berth I turned her around and backed in to the berth. Then I walked her back nearly to the end of the slip and tied off (I took the O/B off) so she wouldn't move around too much.

I did all the work from the dock - it was not difficult at all. The old through-bolts are probably glassed in (you'll see a big bulge of of marine-tex or fiberglass or similar compound) where the bolts should be (from the inside). Sand that down until you see the nuts, which are probably recessed in plywood backing 'plate'. Buy some longer bolts to replace the old ones and through-bolt them with locking nuts. If the bolt-holes are worn and the bolts wobble you will probably want to drill them out to accomodate a larger diameter bolt. Use LOTS of 4200 (or similar) to seal the gudgeon and bolts when reinstalling. It's a day project..

There are other threads on this subject too tht you can find and get other ideas from.

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djn
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Response Posted - 08/31/2006 : 17:04:03

I think it all depends on how high about the water your dock is. I replaced the top bushing today and did it hanging over the stern but I could not reach the bottom one (still good anyway) and my dock is well above my deck so reaching it from the dock is out of the question. I will have to replace it this winter. Cheers.

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bbriner
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Response Posted - 08/31/2006 : 17:57:46

Yes, I'll have to agree with you there Dennis... I didn't think of that

. If you can reach the lower gudgeon from your dock then you can do it from the dock. If not.. well, then ... aside from rigging some scaffolding contraption to lower yourself into reach, I guess you would have to wait until you are on the hard.

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 09/04/2006 : 23:30:58

I backed my boat into the slip, put all the heavy stuff onboard in the V berth and that lifted the stern much higher. If I were to do this again I'd have several "really big" friends sit on the bow (drinking beer) while I did the repair

I also removed the 8hp Honda which made it easier to reach from the dock.
An easy, no-hauling, fix

. You can do it.....

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