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ed_spengeman
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Initially Posted - 04/30/2006 :  14:53:50  Show Profile
Just added water to starboard potable water tank and port porta-pottie on my 83 cat 25 sk/tr. Like last year, it puts the bow bootstripe into the water. What are some ideas being used to get her back on her lines. Thanks for your help.
Ed Spengeman

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 04/30/2006 :  18:32:53  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">bow bootstripes<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Ideas? Add crew to the rear....
In my opinion, I always want the bow down because it gets the "aft" end up and out of the deep water some, thus avoiding drag underwater. That's why you put weight forward, too, when running downwind....to reduce drag.
So I pile all the crap in the boat forward in the V berth. I also have the waste tank up there but I don't personally try to fill it before racing or sailing because it weighs alot!!!

Just my 2 cents worth....

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/30/2006 :  18:42:36  Show Profile
Ed,

I seem to remember this issue being discussed and I believe it may be due to the swing keel weight balance. Some have reported that the forward tilt sometimes caused water to collect on the cockpit floor because the slight forward tilt didn't allow water to run aft to the drains.

Does the boat get on her lines with the keel up?

Just found some info...

Check out this link to a past topic concerning [url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=2649"]Boat Balance[/url].

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 04/30/2006 :  20:08:45  Show Profile
While unladen and at rest, early swingers don't float level on their marks unless the keel is cranked up. I suspect it is by design.

With people in the cockpit and under sail, they sit even on their marks with the keel down (as it should be).

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 04/30/2006 :  20:54:05  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
We moved our anchor aft out of the anchor locker. We had two 30 pounders, the shift equated to 120 pounds

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ed_spengeman
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Response Posted - 05/01/2006 :  09:53:29  Show Profile
This response is great and brings up another point. If I single-hand her most of the time, do I tune the mast to vertical when I'm the only one on board and will it matter that the boat is slightly nose-down.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/01/2006 :  18:53:43  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by ed_spengeman</i>
<br />This response is great and brings up another point. If I single-hand her most of the time, do I tune the mast to vertical when I'm the only one on board and will it matter that the boat is slightly nose-down.
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I would set the mast rake with the keel down. That way she'll be sitting on her under sail lines.

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StSimon
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Response Posted - 05/02/2006 :  22:06:44  Show Profile
I vaguely remember a discussion of adding weight under the V-berth. I do not remember which forum and assume it was not for the swingers?

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StSimon
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Response Posted - 05/02/2006 :  22:08:46  Show Profile
I should have mentioned, I also have an abnormal waterline mark. It goes up over the bootstripe at the bow. I had planned on raising the bottom paint this time to compensate for the line and prevent any blisters. I never liked my bootstripe color anyway.

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