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Frank Hopper
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Pitcairn Island
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Initially Posted - 04/24/2006 :  14:13:06  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
[url="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Sailboat-30-ft-inboard-diesel-engine-with-9-sails_W0QQitemZ4633001322QQcategoryZ63731QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem"]light and quick[/url]
30ft and 5600lb!
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 04/24/2006 :  14:43:42  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Quick maybe. but its a touch heavy at 5600...

Maybe if you started to pull all that wood out of the cabin...
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 04/24/2006 :  14:52:04  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
I don't know what counts as a ULDB anymore but it seems light.
A J30 is 7000lb
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 04/24/2006 :  18:59:41  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Evelyn 32 is 4500
Max weight on a Mumm 30 is 4300, min is 4215
J 80 - in the same Ballpark
Olson 30 about 4800

And two of those are bigger boats. I'm not saiying shes a fat pig - just more medium than light...
If she weren't on ebay I would consider it...

dw
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 04/24/2006 :  19:41:18  Show Profile
Ultimate 30
hull 30 ft. with 25 ft. bowsprit
2000 lbs. disp., including sails and all gear
Mainsail & jib 645 sq. ft.
spinnaker 1200-2400 sq. ft.
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 04/24/2006 :  20:45:55  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
I said campaign, not suicide pact!
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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 04/25/2006 :  09:04:52  Show Profile
Wood hull?? Yikes!
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tinob
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Response Posted - 04/25/2006 :  10:17:48  Show Profile
Now that's a pitch-poler!!!

Brings back memories of pole vaulting in College.
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Ericson33
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Response Posted - 04/25/2006 :  12:34:26  Show Profile  Visit Ericson33's Homepage
There is nothing wrong with a wood boat if it is kept up. Well for the first year :) My dads boat was all wood, epoxy glass and microballoned hull, really fast boat.

Take a look at the boom, it doesn't look like the sail plan is all that racy. I sure would like to see more pics.
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 04/25/2006 :  15:48:05  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Capri25</i>
<br />There is nothing wrong with a wood boat if it is kept up.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
My point exactly!
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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 04/28/2006 :  02:45:34  Show Profile
When you start getting "light" or "medium" even, still seems to me that you are dependent upon a lot of rail meat to keep the boat on her feet, right? I just can't go there.

I like fast alright, but need moderate displacement with a decently weighted keel so I don't need to take the whole neighborhood.

Am I mistaken here?

And as for wood, I worked in a yard for awhile building wood/epoxy composite hulls (same yard that made Ocean Planet). The owner has a 70'+ Wiley that did SF to Hawaii in 7 days and change. Incredible boat that seems to be holding up well. She was built in 92 or 93, I think. Rage is her name. See her coming, get out of the way. I sailed on her once in about 10-12 knots of breeze and saw 15 knots without really trying. She hit 30 on the way to Hawaii. Tiller steered, like a big dinghy!

I don't knock "wood boats"!

Gary B.
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