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C250 2003 Price change 22,500

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stewendkos
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Initially Posted - 03/31/2006 : 15:49:23

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Well,nobody wanted it at a steal,so I'll trade her unless somebody comes along with 22,500 her real value.
I'm purchasing a new C270.Being delivered 1n 3 weeks.Selling my C250(It's a "10")absolutely mint.30 hours on Honda 8 modern style ultra long shaft,electric start engine completely flushed after every use and professionally serviced by Tradewinds(Honda marine)in Costa Mesa ca..Auto-pilot,all canvas and sails like new.
Sony stereo .Never slept in.Waxed every 3 months.E-Zjacs.Wing Keel.
No shipping.I'll personally warrant her.Professional rig maintenance.
Beautiful condition.Dolfin divers of Dana Point cleans her monthly and will certify the bottom against any defectsand to be in perfect condition.Dual batteries with charger,shore power,micro-wave.We are seniors and she has had no abuse,just lots of care.She also carries all new ground tackle and roller(Never used)
22,500 (drop from 25k) and that's a real fair price.All receipts,of course.Interested folks only.Click on the "My Doll".I'm dropping the price because I need the slip for the 270.You can see it on A-54
cove in Dana Point harbor.Please don't go aboard.E-mail me if you're interested and then I'll meet you there after you take a look.
Thanks,
Steve

Steve Wendkos
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stewendkos@cox,net

Steve Wendkos
My Doll #692 Gone!

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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 03/31/2006 : 18:41:48

Hell of a good deal, Steve. With under 30' slips disappearing, long waiting lists for those available up and down the coast, it's a brick wall trying to sell a boat in today's tight slip market. But at that price it'll eventually sell. How 'bout posting it on eBay and all the national Catalina owners associations.

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 04/11/2006 : 07:31:55

It seems to me that at that price someone can ship the boat cross country and still end up with a good deal.

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kevinmac
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Response Posted - 04/19/2006 : 22:42:14

I am not sure I should write this post, I don't want to offend anyone. But in an effort to help Steve, here is a different perspective.

Steve, a Southern California buyer (no freight) can buy a brand new C250WK without a trailer for about $23,000. Add a brand new outboard for $2200, you get to $25,200. You have added some valuable options, but your boat is also used, as opposed to new. $20,000 makes the boat attractive, but it is not a steal UNLESS Catalina has finally moved C250 production to Florida, in which case you now have to add $4,000 in freight to the new price for a new boat.

Across the country, when I shopped last year, there were a number of C250s available (with wheel steering, I think yours has a tiller, right?) WITH a trailer, motor, and more options than your has for $20,000 to $25,000. So to me, as a recent buyer, $20,000 without a trailer does not seem like a particularly low price, even with the motor and options you have.

I am NOT dissing your boat, or anyone elses. Just telling you what I found when I looked in the last six months of 2005. I would have bought a used boat, but I could not find one with a tiller, they all had wheels. So I bought new.

I have a friend shopping right now (but he wants to steal a boat, and needs a trailer), and he is seeing poor condition boats for $14,000 and good condition boats for around where your price is. WITH a trailer.

As another data point, sailgal just sold her 2002 250WB with trailer and a lot of great stuff, for $21,500 or less ($21,500 was her negotiable asking price).

If I am wrong, and you HAVE a trailer, please forgive me for being confused. As I said, I just want to help you get your boat moved.

Hope this helps.

Edited by - kevinmac on 04/19/2006 22:46:46

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Response Posted - 04/20/2006 : 00:06:05

Steve, you're solidly "in the ballpark", based on these 250's currently for sale:

Catalina 250's currently for sale in our classifieds:
Year Location Click to view photo Price
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1995 NC Sale Pending
1995 CA $12,800 US
2000 MA $19,300 US
2002 MA $19,900 US
2002 NV $21,400 US
2003 FL $21,500 US
2000 NJ $27,900 US
2005 NY $29,479 US
2006 MO $33,624 US
2004 NC $34,000 US
2004 NC $35,420 US

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kevinmac
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Response Posted - 04/20/2006 : 08:11:10

But I would bet that most of those have trailers, which is a $5000 difference. And the higher priced ones, more than the cost of a new boat? How does that make sense?

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stewendkos
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Response Posted - 04/20/2006 : 14:58:09

Thank you for the input.I searched a long time ,and was excited to find a boat in the condition of mine for the price.I've added lots of expensive extras and have a very (perfect) boat well worth the $.I've put it on e-bay.
Take a look.I'm sure that there are'nt any others on our coast at that price.We seldom use trailers here.
The Honda cost 3400 top flush,extra long shaft,electric start,and the newer style.

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raulpou
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Response Posted - 04/21/2006 : 10:27:17

To answer your question, "steve" in So. Cal. will have to pay for the shipping because production nis now in FLorida.

Also, while I understand your comments, I believe you may be doing a disservice to anyone that belongs to the forum and may want to look at the boat. Like I said, I understand your points, but when those points could "hurt" the chances of a fellow member selling his boat, to me that is not very tactful.

I recently was in the market and took me about 3 months to find the boat I wanted and when it comes to these sailboats all of the extras definitely add up. I thinkn it is a fair price and if I was still in the market, I would seriously consider it.

ps- check out the pricing lists, you would be hard pressed to find a a new boat (with some options) w/o trailer for under $27,000.

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Response Posted - 04/21/2006 : 10:52:43

Steve Wendkos:

If you don't get a buyer, why can't you trade in the boat for your new 270? I know a trade-in would be at a lower price than an outright sale, but isn't that an option? Again, your lowered asking price is a terrific deal 'cause I know you and your 250: top o' the line

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stewendkos
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Response Posted - 04/21/2006 : 21:30:15

Frank,
Thank you for the comments,and I know you've been on my boat and would give it the high sign.I'm really not trying to hurt anybody nor would I ever even consider it.
I know for a fact that it could'nt be replaced for 25k,and here I'm letting it go for a song because I need my slip.If somebody wants a fine craft at a very fair price,so be it.If not,that's okay too.Possibly I'm asking too little and I should increase it.

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Response Posted - 04/21/2006 : 22:58:48

"why can't you trade in the boat for your new 270?"

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stewendkos
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Response Posted - 04/22/2006 : 12:53:54

Frank,
I can trade it and they'll be asking 24,900 or 25,950 and get it.I thought I'd give someone a break,but it really does'nt matter that much.There happy to get my boat.
Thanks again,
Steve

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Response Posted - 04/22/2006 : 17:43:28

Steve... to owner sell requires at least in Texas, to figure the impact of sales tax. Faced with full amount sales tax on the new boat, you might factor in the sales tax break a trade will yield. I think the sales tax would be about 1,500 less on the new boat if you trade in. This would mean that if they give you 19,000 trade and you can owner sell for 20,000... you lose $500.

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Response Posted - 04/22/2006 : 22:30:29

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Arlyn Stewart
 Steve... to owner sell requires at least in Texas, to figure the impact of sales tax. Faced with full amount sales tax on the new boat, you might factor in the sales tax break a trade will yield. I think the sales tax would be about 1,500 less on the new boat if you trade in. This would mean that if they give you 19,000 trade and you can owner sell for 20,000... you lose $500.
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Great Point!! See, those maths classes would have served me well!!

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stewendkos
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Response Posted - 04/23/2006 : 00:09:03

Arlyn,
Thank you,
Actually,I was really trying to give my forum friends an opportunity at a fine 250.The trade offer was the same and I'm not trying to make a cent.Tomorrow,I'll Be increasing the price to 22,500,knowing that I'll get the price I offered it at without the hassles.
Respectfully,
Steve

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