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Initially Posted - 03/29/2006 : 13:25:13

From: "existentialkayaker"
Date: Wed Dec 8, 2004 9:03 pm
Subject: Portlights existentialk...

Does anyne elses portlights leak? My port side ones do. I've taken out
the screws, removed the aluminum frame and the inside rbber gasket,
but can't get the rest of the assembly apart. I'm afraid I'm going to
break the glass or ruin the gelcoat. Anyone else done this repair?

Edited by - Ericson33 on 03/29/2006 16:16:06

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Response Posted - 03/29/2006 : 13:25:44

From: "chris mckillip"
Date: Wed Dec 8, 2004 10:22 pm
Subject: Re: Portlights cs_mckillip

I have not done this repair yet, but my ports leak alot. this is why
I made the canvas cover for the boat. I get around 3 to 4 inches of
water standing in the side compartments. Catalina direct sell a new
rubber gasket for the Capri's ports. you can try this link

http://www.catalinadirect.com/store/forumhome.cfm

and this one for the replacement gasket
http://www.catalinadirect.com/c-22%20parts.html

I hope this helps out. I think if you follow in the forum you will
find your awnser, post a message on there server and let us know
about your replies. I have also found that Catalina direct sell
almost everthing you need for the Capri 25.

Chris McKillip

Edited by - Ericson33 on 03/29/2006 16:16:17

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Response Posted - 03/29/2006 : 13:26:43

From: "chris mckillip"
Date: Wed Dec 8, 2004 11:57 pm
Subject: More Information on leaky ports cs_mckillip

I did some searching and have found some more links:
http://www.yachtsurvey.com/WindowRepair.htm

And I found this information from a post on Catalina Direct

This seems to be a common problem, here is how I fixed mine.
All 4 windows leaked and I always ended up with water in the
billage .

First look at the window, the outside seal should have a small bevel
about 45 deg if not then the seal has been installed backwards.
To fix this remove the window, once done you will notice the
separation of the outer hull shell and the inner shell, this is
where all your water is coming from. Most likely the lights under
the windows are also ruined. Remove and replace them. Clean the
inner and outer shell removing any and all goop that you used over
the years to stop the leaking.

Now for the windows, they are most likely split aluminum frames. If
you have a gap on the inside and outside seal at the bottom the
seals have shrunk. Not really a problem but a leaking area.
Remove your inner seal and place it aside if its cleanable does so
for reuse.

On the side of the widow remove the screws to the upper half of the
frame.and slowly separate both halves, this may take some force but
take your time. If you used RTV in the outside to fix the leak
earlier clean this off first, the shell comes apart easier that way.
I did mine on board keeping handy a water hose.
Put on some dirty shorts ,have a beer and lay all the parts on the
deck floor The saftyglass pane should be set aside away from all.
Don't cut yourself on the edge this glass is not finished I cut
myself twice and with the next step and a cut on your hand this will
burn.

I know we all have some of that bottom cleaner left over somewhere
after cleaning off last years scum.
Find it and put some in an old Windex sprayer.
Now spay all the parts on the floor completely and let it set for
ten minutes to soak this actually serves two purposes. One you're
going to clean the deck floor. It needs it anyway, and two. It will
shine up the aluminum a bit.
Go to the kitchen and get your wife's dishwashing gloves, the ones
that are always too small. Now sit in the boat and take that deck
cleaner and a small brush and scrub all the parts and seals. If your
brave and do it without gloves that's fine ,but your going you feel
that cut you got earlier on the window.
Ok now your really dirty ,get that water hose and rinse everything
down including yourself. Get another beer.
Your OB drains do work don't they?

Its time for reassembly
I reused my old seals the were not bad you may purchase replacements
from Catalina. Get that window now ,as well as some armorall, and
the lower frame and outer seal.

Place the window in the right direction in your lap with the
saftyglass writing to the outside lower rite side. You should be
able to read the writing the proper way when the window is installed.
Place the glass in your lap, grab the outside window seal and the
LOWER frame this is the one with the large 45deg angle and the tabs
that you did not remove earlier, right!!.
Your widow leaked because the seal shrunk we are going to install
the seal so that the two halves meat a the top ,not the bottom, if
it shrinks it wont leak.
If your using the old seal the curves wont match, stretch it a bit
first.

Now place the seal on the lower edge, wrapping it around the window
as best as possible.
MAKE SURE THE 45DEG BEVEL IS TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE WINDOW. or it
will leak again.

Now spray the armorall onto the lower frame and starting with the
sharp bend slowly slide the frame around the window. Grab the rag in
front of you and place it over the edge of the top of the
glass ,stand it up between your legs and with both hands slowly
apply pressure.

The frame should slide into place with the seal set.
Take your time its a bxxx.
Time for another beer.

You should now have the upper seal halves meet or overlap at the top
with the bottom seal at least somewhat set in place. It does not
have to be completely tight yet this will come all by itself later.
Take the top halve of the frame and spray unit with armorial, Place
the frame in place on the front where the lower half of the angle
meet the upper half and slide the metal tab into place this process
will work like a hinge effect .

If the seals overlap take a pair of cutters and cut it back into
only about 1/8 th inch overlap.
grab both ends. If you have to stretch it to get the contour to
match do so at this time.
Slowly lower the upper frame down until it touches the backside of
the lower frame Let go of the seal the should not overlap at this
point and may even have a small gap, We can live with that because
its at the top of the window not at the bottom.
With your left hand hold the upper seal end ,and with your right
pull out a bit on the upper frame and then push down slowly . all
should now slide into place.
If you don't pull out you will pinch the seal on the backside. If
this has happened you must start the upper process all over. And
since you've already had three beers by now, It's your call.
Once in place Place the frame between your legs and push together
hard until the side plate holes line up .
Replace the two small screws that you put aside earlier
There lost right!!!!.
Congratulations your window is now ready for reinstallation.
Coat the entire frame outside lip with a silicon sealer Its your
choice as to type ,there are many on the market. I chose a clear

Line your window up with the opening and grab the inside retaining
ring and the screws.
Do the top center screw first start it, but don't tighten it. Once
started take the frame and push it up as high into the window
opening as possible and tighten down the screw lightly to hold the
window in place. Do both corners the middle halves at the bottom and
then the rest. Then tighten everything down uniformly.
That's it you've done your window
It should not leak anymore. Let it dry do the other three and then
put the water hose to her Have another beer.
All four windows took me 4 days to do its not a quick project but a
fun one

Edited by - Ericson33 on 03/29/2006 16:16:33

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Response Posted - 03/29/2006 : 13:27:16

Thanks Chris for all the info. I've already ordered the repair kit
from Catalina Direct. I think one of the previous owners may have used
Maine Tex to try to fix the leaks. These should not have to be
hammered out with a chisel! You're right about Catalina Direct having
a lot of stuff for Capri's and of course the Capri shares some things
with the Cat 25, so it's good to lok through that stuff too.
CatalinaOwners.com is useful as well.

Edited by - Ericson33 on 03/29/2006 16:17:01

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