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tomara
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Initially Posted - 03/28/2006 :  09:24:14  Show Profile
Can I raise and lock the companionway stairs or should I remove and reattach the stairs as needed?

Why? The stairs are in the way when two or more people are below decks and we are moored or docked.

Just a'wonderin.
Tommy

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/28/2006 :  10:59:11  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Ever hear voices? I think that somewhere I read that Catalina made the stairs so they could lift and lock up in place but the lawyers made them change the hardware so you cannot do that anymore. Something about pendulums, heads and the conservation of momentum.
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kevinmac
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Response Posted - 03/28/2006 :  12:17:00  Show Profile
I raise the stairs and hold them up with a bungee on the head door all the time. When I get a round tuit I will put a hook and a chain together so that the bungee won't be needed. I have not looked at whether the head door will be able to be opened with the stairs up. I hope so.
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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 03/28/2006 :  14:40:38  Show Profile  Visit AADIVER's Homepage
Yes, the head door does open with the stairs lifted and secured with bungee like I have. Not wide, but wide enough to enter.
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johnsonp
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Response Posted - 03/28/2006 :  14:53:08  Show Profile
<font color="blue"><font size="4"><font face="Comic Sans MS">Bungee cords are not cheap.
I use the head door to hold up the stairs.
Cost $000,000.00.

paulj C250 wk #719</font id="Comic Sans MS"></font id="size4"></font id="blue">
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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 03/28/2006 :  16:55:35  Show Profile  Visit AADIVER's Homepage
"I use the head door to hold up the stairs." And hang a curtain for privacy while you and your crew________
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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 03/28/2006 :  17:40:01  Show Profile
With the coach roof down, and the stairs raised my head door will not open wide enough to enter. With the coach roof up I can get the stairs high enough to open the head door all the way. I use the boat hook to prop the stairs up.
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frog0911
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Response Posted - 03/28/2006 :  18:57:52  Show Profile
Tom, that is scarey. Boathooks have a tendency to move and fall with very little side pressure. I use a piece of 1x2 that sits in the coach roof top grove on both sides when the top is up. When down I use a line strung between the sheet blocks. The holes in them make an ideal place to tie off. This keeps it high enough for full opening of the head door. The only problem not solved yet is keeping it high enough when the roof is close during bad/cold weather.
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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 03/28/2006 :  19:27:41  Show Profile
Jerry
The business end of my boat hook has a slot the same size of the tubing on the stairs. The stair tube fits down in the slot nice so it don't move around. I put other end on the floor in the back corner against the head wall and the back berth so it won't move around, its sturdier than it sounds. plus I don't keep the stairs raised, only for short periods of time when I need to get something out of the aft berth. I prefer to keep the stairs down at night, to many things that can happen at night and I want to be able to get on deck quickly if the need arises. Not to mention, I need to keep the boat "Kevin proof" if you know what I mean.
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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 03/28/2006 :  19:30:02  Show Profile  Visit AADIVER's Homepage
I will post a pic of my solution: two eye screws on each end of the teak bar across the forward end of the sliding roof when it's shut. Raise the ladder and secure it with a stiff bungee hooked into the eye screws and under the legs of the ladder. Still enough room to open the head door far enough to enter and exit.
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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 03/29/2006 :  10:32:39  Show Profile  Visit AADIVER's Homepage
As promised, here 'tis:
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tomara
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Response Posted - 03/29/2006 :  10:43:54  Show Profile
All:
Once again..Great advice. Farmhand..Thanks for the pics.

Bungees seem to be the choice for almost everything.
When in doubt or 1st first thing to try ......Bungee.
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