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pssussman
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Initially Posted - 02/08/2005 : 18:28:24

We bought a 1995 250 WB last year to cruise and race in PHRF. It came with a 110 jib. We are at a disadvantage in light wind against boats with 150's. Is there any way to get a larger sail on this boat (the stays come down to the edge of the deck/hull). We have been told by a sailmaker that they can not make a 135 or 150 that would be able to be sheeted in tight enough for pointing.

Peter Sussman
PR Firm
Minneapolis, MN

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Response Posted - 02/08/2005 : 18:52:34

Lots of 150s out there...try a different sail maker. I got a 150 from National a couple of years ago. One advantage of a Catalina is that they have lots of our sails in stock:

www.nationalsail.com

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 02/08/2005 : 19:06:41

Hi Peter, welcome to the forum

This has been a talked about problem and there are no easy solutions. First thing to do would make sure your handicapper knows that there are two very differing C250 models, the center board and the wing keel and that they seem to be compeditively fairly different because the wing keel is designed to carry more headsail and it has less displacement and therefore wetted surface, sitting 3-4 inches higher in the water. Perhaps the handicapper will be kind if you argue that your boat by design is limited to a 110.

It has been urged that those who race, identify which model they are racing so that eventually the numbers will suit each boat, but previous numbers have rarely done so.

For light air racing, a [url="http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/drifter.html"]Drifter[/url] is available from Ullman Sails in Ventura, Ca. that is a 155 and will sheet well enough in light air to point decently. Changing the sail in a race however would be costly in time.

It has been reported that at least one owner tried to solve the problem by somehow installing track near the rubrail to run a 150... and I'm guessing he must have added coaming winches.

You may or may not know that Catalina tried a 150 on the wing keel version and discontinued it because it overpowered much too easily.

Actually, a 135 on a furler will fit on the boat but it requires some effort... first the tracks on your early hull number are too short so they would need lengthening and double sets of sheets would be needed, one inside and one outside the shrouds, choosing which to use depending on how much sail is out. I've never done this and though I know its been done, I don't have a good feel for how much sheet fouling might occur. Regardless, the boat enjoys deploying an [url="http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/antifouline.html"]anti-fouling line.[/url]

Good luck, let us know how the arguing goes with the handicapper

Edited by - Arlyn Stewart on 02/08/2005 21:47:30

Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 02/08/2005 : 20:30:54

Peter - if your handicapper comes up with a number for you and the other version of the C250, please let me know. Our PHRF Committee is still trying to find a good answer...
Derek

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