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DrDre
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Initially Posted - 09/03/2003 : 00:19:10

I'm just this close to sealing a deal on a great '98 Catalina 250 WK and need some advice on transporting to New York City. I've got to get her to NYC from Charleston, SC at the end of Sept. I'm trying to find the most economical way to transport the boat either by a trucking company or by renting someones WK trailer for a week so I could get up there and back. I know it sounds crazy but even crazier was my planning on taking her up the ICW with my girlfriend for a couple of weeks - neither of us has ever done any trip like that before and the logistics seem a tad daunting at the moment, to say the least. We've found a couple of transport carriers who will do it for about $1200-$1500 which, call me crazy, but sounds like a lot of scratch to come up with. Any other ideas on how this could be done?

Thank you in advance for any help you can offer a newbie who's got so much to learn and looking forward to every second of it.

-Andre'

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 09/03/2003 : 06:25:28

Andre'

The quoted fee sounds quite reasonable to me... that you have two bids within $300 dollars verifies that there is likely no gouging going on.

Ask for references of hauls they have made and call and check the satisfaction level.

You don't say what tow vehicle you own or can borrow... but that plays big time into the equation.

Also, while it could serve to be good time together, do you or your girl friend have to take time off from work to either do the haul or sail the boat... its likely that would amount to a significant amount or more than the cost of the haul.

Without much experience and on a new boat, the task of sailing it up would be as you say "daunting" though it could be rewarding. The cost of charts, transient fees, provisions, fuel etc. for the ICW trip plus getting to the boat to start... all adds up.

IMHO... you have done yourself good to find a trucking company that will make the haul for $1200 and that its probably your best option. However, at $300 difference I would go with the hauler that gets the better reviews.

One question to ask when making the calls is, "Was the upfront agreed price, the same as the final cost, did the hauler ask for any more money?"

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
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mtiffee
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Response Posted - 09/03/2003 : 07:39:38

I might be moving a J/24 from Boston to Charleston, SC around that time. Someone might be able to work with us on a good deal since they'll get to double dip.

Mike
'89 TR/WK "Freelancer"
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 09/03/2003 : 10:03:21

"...was my planning on taking her up the ICW... "

IMHO...

Get some charts, a GPS, some groceries, and go for it !

Sounds like a great adventure and something you would remember for the rest of your lives. That's what it's all about.

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
'78 Catalina 25

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/03/2003 : 10:46:59

With all due respect to Clam, there are some complications... The ICW passes thru the Delaware Chesapeake Canal (with the container ships) into Deleware Bay (meaning The Atlantic) to Cape May, where tides and currents require some careful planning. If you haven't done something like this, don't rush to do it. Plan it with advice from somebody who's done at least the Chesapeake-to-NJ segment.

Arlyn's point on tow vehicles is critical--you should find some threads on that here under Search. One recent thread includes graphic evidence of what can happen if things aren't just right--brakes, balance, wheelbase, etc. On the other hand, the heavier C-25s are towed all over, so it can be done--just not haphazzardly.

I think Arlyn makes some good arguments for commercial hauling. Good luck and congratulations (if prematurely)!

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 09/03/2003 : 11:45:06

If you can hook up with the other member here who is moving a boat about the same time the trucking company may cut you both a deal. When I sold Wind Lass thats what the new owner did. I think it was about $900 for a similar distance. You might also contact a Catalina dealer and see if they have anything going on or know of a trailer.

Doug&Ruth
Triska (Alberg 29)
Tacoma Wa.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 09/03/2003 : 13:57:45

take a gander at the links page

http://www.catalina25-250.org/links.html

there is a link titled boat transporting under the trailer section. They might be able to give you a competitive quote

D. Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 09/03/2003 : 14:55:08

The Atlantic ICW route for this trip would have to extend the length of the Chesapeak, the Delaware, the inside route through New Jersey, and 25 miles of the Atlantic from New York to Manesquan Inlet.

If you waited for good weather for each leg, I think it would take at least 3 to 4 weeks to make the trip. Both the Chesapeak and the Delaware Bays can be very rough in October. They can also be baby smooth if you wait. With food, fuel, and marina fees I would expect that it would cost you about $1000 to make the 3 week trip. November is too late! October may treat you to a nice Indian summer.

If you have the time, it would be great fun. If you try to rush it and do it in a week as a delivery it could be hellish. In that case leave her home or she may never want to sail again!

I've done this trip in a 35 foot power boat (the other direction). www.indiscipline.org, click on Cruise 2000.

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 09/03/2003 : 15:03:01

Jim,

Tha'rs not much betteren than perspective... from summon thas been thar!

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 09/03/2003 : 15:38:44

Andre,

From Jim's estimate the cost of sailing the ICW or trucking the boat up seems to be pretty much a wash. And, if you and Mike can reach some kind of agreement having a trucking firm do the hauling might work out best.

Foir your referance, when I moved osmepneo from NY City area to upstate the haul was about 150-200 miles, and it cost me $400.

A question, how are you going to store your c25 once you get it to NYC. Does she have a cradle, or are you going to have to buy something? Some of the LI marinas use Jack stands and you don't need either a trailer or cradle.

The one thing I wish I had thought of was a trailer when I bought osmepneo. Lots of advantages, and it would open a greater universe for sailing, and racing.

Just some extra things to think about.

Don Peet
c25, 1665, osmepneo, sr/wk
The Great Sacandaga Lake, NY

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DrDre
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Response Posted - 09/04/2003 : 01:17:47

Dear All;

One million thank yous for the advice. I have taken them all into consideration and I think I will play it safe this time and have the boat transported. I will be sailing her here in Charleston almost daily but I don't think that will give the the confidence I need to get her up there in Oct. The weather is playing a huge factor in my decision not to mention that time is money and getting the boat up there sooner will give both my girlfriend and I a couple of weeks to play on the water near home before the artic chill descends.

I've emailed Mike to we can try and arrange some sort of deal with a carrier.

Don- As far as a trailer goes I think you are right. I don't have a trailer or jacks or a cradle. I am going directly to the links page and look at trailer prices and scan Soundings and Boat Trader for used models. Most of the marinas that I'm finding have Jack Stands to buy or rent. Having a trailer would open many more cruising possibilities but then we'd have to get another car because I don't see Bella, my '89 Volvo 240 Station Wagon, being able to tow a boat-at least not this one.

Thanks again and I look forward to getting your help on the many issues I will face being newbie in so many repects... 'til then..

-Andre'

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mtiffee
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Response Posted - 09/04/2003 : 08:01:06

Didn't get your email..

freelancer@catalina25.com

i've emailed some shipping companies to see what kind of deal can be struck. FYI, I'm moving a boat from Beverly, MA to Charleston, SC, but this deal hasn't gone through yet.

Mike

Mike
'89 TR/WK "Freelancer"
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rford
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Response Posted - 09/05/2003 : 00:04:58

See this topic discussing transportation

http://www.catalina25-250.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4336

Rod Ford
"Providence"
1990 C-25 #6022 of 6031 WK/TR

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thacket3
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Response Posted - 09/09/2003 : 09:45:00

I brought my C25 Fin Keel to Miami from Atlanta this year. I hired an Atlanta firm called Marine Logistics. I got his name from this forum. (another memeber gave me the info.) I was Very pleased and happy with the service. Additionally, I had Freedom Sailing Services in Atlanta prepare the boat for moving.

I spent $1,700 for the move which, believe it or not, was the cheapest by $200. I bid the move out to four companies and Marine Logistics, who I wanted to use in the first place, came in least expensive. If you want the number let me know.

Tim
hackettt@urbanretail.com

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