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RichardG
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Initially Posted - 08/09/2003 : 11:04:12

http://www.thelog.com/news/newsview.asp?c=69150

That'll ruin your day real quick...

RichardG 81 C25 SR/FK "Sanity"

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 08/09/2003 : 12:27:20

I guess that the skipper forgot about the "big boat rules"!!
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Dave B
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Response Posted - 08/09/2003 : 12:31:45

He forgot to yell "STARBOARD"... <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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ssteakley
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Response Posted - 08/10/2003 : 21:59:22

Maybe he just did not see the little bitty war ship?
I see drivers like him all the time on IH35 in Austin.....They useualy create 4-5 mile traffic parking lots on I35,
The Navy was very considerate taking the time to blow their horn,,,
Or perhaps it was a bad time to run down to the head!
Steve

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Dave B
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Response Posted - 08/11/2003 : 09:47:11

But he tacked right back across them! <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> Sounds like "Suicide by Navy."

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 08/13/2003 : 11:34:29

Why yell "Starboard!!!" when he's on port?

Hate to admit that there are some sailors who act like that, but there are? Amazing that some one would think they could cut so close! Ouch.

Don Peet
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 08/13/2003 : 12:06:59

How about the 200 Foot NAval vessel radius that has been enacted since 9-11. The Skipper of the sailboat is going be paying a few fines, and/or jail time.

dw

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 08/13/2003 : 12:16:21

He's lucky he wasn't blown out of the water by a 20mm cannon. I'll bet they had one trained on him. They were probably worried that his boat might be loaded with explosives. In the post-Cole era, I'm a little surprised they didn't fire a warning shot across his bow. He sure gave the skipper a tough decision. "Do I shoot him and possibly end my career, or do I hesitate and possibly end my career?"

Steve Milby "Captiva Wind" C-25 T/FK #2554

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Dave B
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Response Posted - 08/13/2003 : 14:22:01

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
How about the 200 Foot NAval vessel radius that has been enacted since 9-11.
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My recollection is 100 yards, and that within 500 yards you must slow to the minimum speed to maintain steerage.

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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sailgal
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Response Posted - 08/13/2003 : 17:24:08

Darn stinkpotters! LOL

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 08/13/2003 : 17:40:24

I used to date a very fine lady who was a Captain in the air force. She transferred from the Navy. She hated the Navy. One mistake and your career is ended, and not even a big mistake. I understand that in the military you have to have it together, but from what I gather lots of good people get canned over trivial stuff.
I'm very thankful that there are many good folks in the military keeping us safe.

Frank Gloss
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Oscar
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Response Posted - 08/13/2003 : 23:27:58

Like anywhere, you get in trouble in the military only if you get caught......<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

As far as staying out of the way of Navy ships......I stay way the heck out of the way of anything that's bigger than I am, armed or not. I'm on vacation, not a mission.

Oscar, 250WB #618, Lady Kay

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 08/14/2003 : 08:40:33

I know what you mean Oscar. Last month the tall ships came to Cleveland. The Coast guard was out in 20+ foot Orange Zodiacs, nicely fitted with M-60's bow and stern (might have been 50 cal, but I don't know my weapons to tell the difference...) I steered well clear of the governmentally employed 18 year olds with high caliber weapons.

D. Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
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Oscar
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Response Posted - 08/14/2003 : 12:27:00

Cleveland.....used to crew PHRF out of Edgewater YC on a PY26....600' oreboats come out of the Cuyahoga and aim straight for the middle of the pack on a no air day......pandemonium, motors starting, race over....speaking of big ships.....

Oscar
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 08/14/2003 : 14:34:24

Not sure what it was like back then, but all of the races are run by one of a number of PRO's (professional race officers) who are members. They get on the horn and notify the boats and those guys head out an extra mile or two before heading toward Michigan. With Ore boats all you have to do is ask. Many of those guys relax on their month off on their own sailboats, so they avoid you out of respect.

Unless of course the regatta calls for a course that runs right across the mouth of the river...then you have problems. 95% of the time they aren't even a factor.

dw

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 08/17/2003 : 07:54:42

Several years ago I listened to a conversation on channel 16 between the Officer of the Deck on the Theodore Roosevelt and a woman in a sailboat in the Elizabeth River (Norfolk). The OD was politely explaining to the woman that no, she didn't have right of way, and that if she would stay on her side of the river, they would pass on her port side. She kept insisting the TR had to yield to her. Another sailor who had heard the radio exchange later joked that aircraft carriers now paint sailboats on their islands instead of warships sunk.

Looks like the Coronado gets to paint an icon on their bridge.

Brooke

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RichardG
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Response Posted - 08/26/2003 : 13:11:11

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>He's lucky he wasn't blown out of the water by a 20mm cannon. I'll bet they had one trained on him. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

A reply from the Navy...

http://www.thelog.com/news/newsview.asp?c=71106

RichardG 81 C25 SR/FK "Sanity"

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Response Posted - 08/26/2003 : 15:01:48

It just gets stranger and stranger... "Security boats" all around, and the guy does that?? No wonder the investigation is taking so long--nobody will make any sense out of that one. Reminds me of a recent post on Trailer Sailor by a guy who bought a Catalina 22, says he had never even been on a sailboat before, rigged it by himself, launched it, and went sailing single-handed. Hope there were no Navy vessels around that one...

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 08/26/2003 : 21:56:03

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Reminds me of a recent post on Trailer Sailor by a guy who bought a Catalina 22, says he had never even been on a sailboat before, rigged it by himself, launched it, and went sailing single-handed. Hope there were no Navy vessels around that one...<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Never even been on a sailboat before, rigged it by himself, launched it, and went sailing single-handed...Hmmmm...That's about how it went for me when I purchased my first sailboat, a Venture 25.<img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Response Posted - 08/26/2003 : 23:15:42

That's 3' scarier! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 08/26/2003 : 23:55:05

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>That's 3' scarier!<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Yeah, but I dint no any better! <img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle>...I have to admit I was a tad nervous the first time I hoisted the sails and the boat started heeling.

<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>Don Lucier<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>
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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 08/27/2003 : 00:33:33

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Never even been on a sailboat before, rigged it by himself, launched it, and went sailing single-handed...Hmmmm...That's about how it went for me when I purchased my first sailboat, a Venture 25.<img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>
<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Glad that I'm not the only one. Sailed little boats (e.g., Sunfish) previously, so knew the rudiments. Friend takes me as crew on his C30 one weekend, then as 1/2 time skipper next weekend, then as full-time skipper the third weekend. Hey, I have got to get a boat! About three weeks and 50 boats later, I'm the proud owner of C25 #4849. One week later, I'm a singlehander. There's only one way to learn to swim... <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

J.B. Manley, Antares '85 FK/SR #4849
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 08/27/2003 : 02:29:26

Before I bought my Venture 25, I had never sailed or crewed on anything resembling a sailboat, I just always had an unexplained longing to sail. Then one cold snowy January day while musing aloud to a coworker about getting a sailboat and sailing to warmer climates, he volunteers that he has a friend who was moving to Boston and he needed to sell a sailboat quick to which I said, "call him and get me the information".

A week later I used a pick axe to dig the boat and trailer from the seller's frozen backyard and towed it home. The next four months was spent reading sailing books and learning my way around the boat in my backyard. Then on a cold spring day I splashed the boat and took it on the inaugural sail. The rest is history! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Response Posted - 08/27/2003 : 08:43:03

Well, since the thread is going this way... I started at about nine on a square-rigged, flat-bottom rowboat for which my dad built a set of leeboards, a bedsheet for a sailplan, and a makeshift oarlock on the transom. He'd tow me two miles upwind on the lake, and I'd broad reach back and forth all the way home--in love with the wind! Then at about 12, I built a little sailfish-type boat that could actually sail upwind... (That's when I figured out how to back a sailboat to get out of irons on a tack.) And the rest is just about a half century of history.

Now, if I can just figure out what those little red ribbons are for... <img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 08/27/2003 : 11:15:11

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>That's when I figured out how to back a sailboat to get out of irons on a tack <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Dad threw me in a "Pirate" (Dutch built dingy looks like an Optimist except with a proper bow) and pushed me off the dock.."Be careful" he said....

Used to sail races with about twenty or thirty of 'em at a time, one time we drove our "coach" mad because a bunch of us sailed the whole track backwards.... took a little longer.....

Used to back my C30 with the main backed, lot of wear and tear on the rudder though.....<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Oscar
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