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River Harley
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Initially Posted - 06/05/2003 :  01:34:40  Show Profile
I plan to add ballast to my wk this week in the form of sandbags under the v-berth. Does anyone have experience with this strategy? If so, what amount of sand would you recommend? Someone told me that it would make the boat less tender.

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Response Posted - 06/05/2003 :  01:37:12  Show Profile
oops! Excuse my triple entry...my computer is acting up.
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cathluk
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Response Posted - 06/05/2003 :  07:54:13  Show Profile
We realized that our boat sailed better w/ more weight up front when one of us sat up front one day while sailing. I think we added 200 or 250 lbs of playground sand (I can't remember exactly). We're planning to take some out this year because since we've started storing more stuff under the v-berth & may have too much weight slowing us down.

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coldducks
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Response Posted - 06/05/2003 :  09:00:58  Show Profile
we did the same thing. made a huge difference. we added about 200lbs also.

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Al
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Response Posted - 06/05/2003 :  11:24:47  Show Profile
I'm going to try four 50 lb. bags in my boat soon, too. My dealer said it would be beneficial in heavier air, but slow the boat down in light air, due to increased wetted surface. I'm not sure I agree with him on the slowing down part. True, there would be more wetted surface, but the boat would be going through the water at the correct angle of attack (if that's the correct nautical term...) instead of the steeper angle that results from having the stern too low. I agree acceleration would suffer a little, but once you get moving....?

You could also experiment with how far forward to place the bags. All the way forward would provide the most leverage to level the boat, but possibly at the cost of increasing the "hobby-horse" effect.

Al Maniccia
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BJ Wagner
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Response Posted - 06/05/2003 :  13:47:50  Show Profile
We moved our group 24 battery into the area under the v-berth and then added an additional battery and this seems to be enough.

The only problem that it has created is our sailmaster 8 outboard has more of a tendency for the exhaust to come out of the water when I go forward. It still seems to get water to cool, but it doesn't sound good. Our outboard is mounted on the optional bracket.

Has anyone else encountered this when they have added ballast up forward?



Brad
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River Harley
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Response Posted - 06/05/2003 :  19:56:36  Show Profile
BJ
How long is the shaft on your outboard?

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BJ Wagner
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Response Posted - 06/06/2003 :  12:50:02  Show Profile
It's the sailmaster 8 and it has the 25" shaft.



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jfesi
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Response Posted - 06/08/2003 :  15:35:43  Show Profile
BJ

I added three bags of landscaping marble chips under the V-berth last season. It works well - and won't create the mess of sand if one of the bags ever splits.

I've experienced the same issue with the outboard (Evinrude 4-stroke extra long shaft) exhaust. I get plenty of water circulation, but the exhaust port will slip above water level whenever I am forward on the boat. When I am behind the wheel, the exhaust stays below the water surface.

My outboard is mounted on the manufacturer's transom mount and can't be further lowered. I've considered installing an optional bracket mount, but think I would sell the Evinrude (25" shaft) and buy the Honda (28" sahft) first.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 06/08/2003 :  19:11:00  Show Profile
Why not put a flexible 25 gallon water bag up under the V-Berth?

You get plenty of reserve fresh water, and a couple hundred pounds of easily adjustable ballast at the same time.



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Rubin Hawkins
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Response Posted - 06/11/2003 :  16:02:12  Show Profile
A flexible water bag in the Bow attached to a fill line from a blaster pump would provide a great opportunity to adjust ballast. Great for when the stern seat is being strained. Of course that would assume that one has a blaster pump and the necessary plumbing skills to install such a monster.

Rubin
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Response Posted - 06/15/2003 :  10:49:37  Show Profile
I used to use our aft berth for storage (which included our 100lb inflatable dinghy). After moving all the stuff we don't normally use, including the dinghy under the v-berth, I've noticed a significant change in handling, for the better.

Tray
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jkountz
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Response Posted - 06/15/2003 :  21:39:58  Show Profile  Visit jkountz's Homepage
I added 200 lbs of sand which brought the boat back to her water lines. A flexible water ballast system connected to a blaster sounds much better but might the weight needed to correct balance.

John Kountz
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