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john_the_actuary
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Initially Posted - 05/05/2003 : 12:29:07

I'm having trouble with the roller furler on 2002 250.

This is a Schaeffer system which I am 99% certain is Catalina standard equipment.

The jib halyard at the top of the forestay is wrapping around the white cylinder (the foil) that the sail is raised through. This causes a jam which I either have to pull through with great effort or else I have to back off and refurl to unjam the mechanism.

The jib halyard is attached to a barrel which holds the head of the jib. This barrel is not freely turning around the foil. It's getting stuck.

The roller furler owner's manual suggests that this is a symptom of not having the proper bracket installed at the top of the mast to guide the halyard to the aft side of the stay. While that may be true, my mast definitely has the bracket installed. It probably would work better, if it was 4 inches lower, but it's there. Moving the bracket's my fix of last resort because I don't want to lower the mast if I don't have to.

Any other ideas on how to fix this problem?

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willy
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Response Posted - 05/05/2003 : 14:58:33

John,
I have limited experience as I just picked took delivery on my 250WB on Friday but... I did have a bit of difficulty with halyard wrap at the top of the mast with my roller furler. The dealer added the small guide bracket you mention (it did not come from the factory installed) with pop rivets to the mast and it cleared up the problem.
If it was working before, and is not now, thats probably not the issue.
We also experienced some difficulty getting the furler to spin properly and by playing with both the tension on the forestay and with the degree to which the jib was hoisted we seemed to get that solved.
I know its not very definative but I hope it gives you some places to start.
Bill

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 05/05/2003 : 15:38:05

John,

Evidently, Catalina has made a change to the Schaeffer furler recently after having installed the CDI furler for many years... So... many of us will not have a working knowledge of your system.

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
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bren737
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Response Posted - 05/05/2003 : 21:44:08

John,

I had the exact same problem with my new 2002 WB when I bought it last year. First time I took her out, with light winds, it worked fine. The next week, with stronger winds and therefore more tension on the rig, I never could get the jib unfurled due to the halyard wrapping around the stay.

The professional rigger the dealer had help me commission the boat had insisted that the "little halyard bracket" was uneeded and "an option." It was not. I had to drop the mast and pop-rivet the bracket on and restep the mast. It has worked flawlessly, under any condition, ever since. Hard to believe such a small part can be so important.

I don't recall exactly how far down from the top of the mast I mounted the bracket, but it was in accordance with the installation instructions that came with the furler. You may want to recheck the distance on yours to make certain it's correct.

Bren Peterson
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San Antonio, TX

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Chip Hunt
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Response Posted - 05/05/2003 : 22:19:08

i had the same problem on my boat. that little bracket you are referring to is called a preventer (if im not mistaken). once i had one installed, the problem went away entirely

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tomp
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Response Posted - 05/06/2003 : 16:53:38

Hey John, I had the same problrm with my 2003. After talking with Scheaffer this is what I had working. Two things are important, first is maximum hoist, get the swivel as close to the preventer as possible, and halyard tension.

I ended up putting a pendent (if that's the right spelling) between the head of the sail and the swivel, This got the swivel closer to the preventer and as a result less halyard is left to wrap.

I also found out that too much tension was a problem as well as too little. I would loosen halyard tension slightly for furling and tighten back up for sailing. Pain in the *** but it worked.

A post note: I had a number of problems with the front of the boat, long story short, I bugged Catalina enough that they replaced the Scheaffer with a CDI. I like it much better and now I don't need to add the spinniker halyard.

Tom Peterson
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john_the_actuary
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Response Posted - 05/23/2003 : 12:38:54

Thanks for the help and ideas.

Unfortunately, weather's been so yucky in the east, I haven't had any sailing or maintenance time to work on the problem. Will report back when I do.

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