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mgarner
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Initially Posted - 07/03/2018 :  07:39:16  Show Profile
Does anyone have a picture of the gooseneck on a TR with relation to where you have it located on the mast?

We finally got Midwatch ready for sailing last weekend and noticed the boom was not laying perpendicular to the mast and the mainsail leach was very loose.

This has taken some time to get her in sailing shape after sitting for 4-5 years and not being used at all, but she is looking a lot better.

I wanted to thank everyone on here, as this is my first source when I have questions.
Marty Garner
"Midwatch" 1985 C25 4869 TR/FK

Stinkpotter
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 07/03/2018 :  08:08:21  Show Profile
The gooseneck position is determined by tensioning the luff using the downhaul with the sail fully hoisted. The angle of the boom depends on the shape of the sail, and can be affected to some degree with the vang (if you have one) and the mainsheet. It sounds like you don't have a vang--that's your primary tool for tightening the leech and flattening the sail by pulling the boom end down. Shifting your traveler to leeward also can help, so that the mainsheet is pulling more downward (at least when close-hauled). If you have a topping lift, it should be a little slack with the sail fully hoisted (unless you're purposefully using it to change the sail shape).
Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic/Stonington CT
PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
Now on Eastern 27 $+!nkp*+ Sarge
Edited by - Stinkpotter on 07/03/2018 21:14:19
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Bladeswell
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Response Posted - 07/03/2018 :  08:41:42  Show Profile  Visit Bladeswell's Homepage
Hi Marty,

Is it possible that maybe you forgot to release the topping lift ? Provided of coarse that you have one. Best of luck.

Bladeswell
C25 TR FK Hull #973 1979 L-Dinette. So.Cal.
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 07/03/2018 :  08:56:23  Show Profile
I run the main to full hoist and then tension with a boom downhaul. That results in the boom being roughly perpendicular to the mast, but the vang is often necessary when off the wind.

Dave B. aboard Pearl
1982 TR/SK/Trad. #3399
Lake Erie/Florida Panhandle
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keats
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Response Posted - 07/03/2018 :  10:57:11  Show Profile


I did happen to snap some pics while de-rigging last week and this is the only one that shows the gooseneck. Note the downhaul is off. I have the tall rig. Below is a wider shot with everything still on, probably not much help.



I'm going up tomorrow and If you need any pics or measurements, let me know.
Tim Keating
1985 C-25 TR/FK #4940
Midsummer
Lake Don Pedro, CA
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keats
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Response Posted - 07/03/2018 :  11:07:41  Show Profile
One more, fwiw
Tim Keating
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mgarner
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Response Posted - 07/03/2018 :  13:38:06  Show Profile
Thanks for all of the advice.

I have about a 1 foot drop in the boom from the gooseneck to the aft end. I am sure I am not setting up something right and will not be able to get back down to the boat for a couple of weeks.
Marty Garner
"Midwatch" 1985 C25 4869 TR/FK
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 07/03/2018 :  15:01:04  Show Profile
The fact that the boom is drooping doesn't necessarily mean anything is wrong. Racing class standards establish limits on the length of the hoist and of the foot of a sail, but there is no limitation on the length of the leech. Thus, sailmakers sometimes make the leech a bit longer, which makes the boom droop a bit, but it increases the sail area slightly without violating the class standards. You might have a sail with a racing cut.

Also, the loose leech could be the result if you forgot to insert the battens. Or, you might need to adjust the mainsail's leech line to make the sail's leech stand up properly. The purpose of the leech line is to support the leech.
Steve Milby J/24 "Captiva Wind"
previously C&C 35, Cal 25, C25 TR/FK, C22
Past Commodore
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Stinkpotter
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 07/03/2018 :  21:20:42  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by keats

That's one fine looking C-25!
Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic/Stonington CT
PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
Now on Eastern 27 $+!nkp*+ Sarge
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keats
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Response Posted - 07/03/2018 :  22:19:27  Show Profile
A lot of elbow grease, it was pretty dang chalky a month ago.
Tim Keating
1985 C-25 TR/FK #4940
Midsummer
Lake Don Pedro, CA
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Bladeswell
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Response Posted - 07/04/2018 :  07:38:03  Show Profile  Visit Bladeswell's Homepage
Hi Again Marty,

That's a beautiful boat. I am filled with envy.

Bladeswell
C25 TR FK Hull #973 1979 L-Dinette. So.Cal.
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 07/05/2018 :  06:31:18  Show Profile
Did she start out blue? Or was she painted with 2 part polyurethane paint?
Bruce Ross
Passage ~ SR-FK ~ C25 #5032

Port Captain — Milford, CT
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keats
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Response Posted - 07/05/2018 :  06:49:20  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Voyager

Did she start out blue? Or was she painted with 2 part polyurethane paint?
It's the original blue gelcoat Bruce. It's showing its age in some spots but in fair condition overall.
Tim Keating
1985 C-25 TR/FK #4940
Midsummer
Lake Don Pedro, CA
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