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Bladeswell
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Initially Posted - 12/01/2015 :  14:42:27  Show Profile  Visit Bladeswell's Homepage
Hello Everyone,

I'm about to remove the galley counter top in order to make a new one. It doesn't look like I have the room to raise it all up high enough to clear the bottom of the ice box. If anyone has done this, how is the ice box attached to the counter top? If I can remove the ice box first, then it looks like it will have the clearance to Lift out prior to removing the counter top. Pretty sure I will also need to remove the sink faucet first also. Not sure about the sink.Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks again. Fair winds.

Bladeswell
C25 TR FK Hull #973 1979 L-Dinette. So.Cal.

DavidBuoy
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Response Posted - 12/01/2015 :  20:52:09  Show Profile
That's a good question. I really would love to tear out that whole area cause I don't use the sink, icebox or stove, or drawers.. So you should document and add some photos! Thanks in advance!

Captain Rob & Admiral Alyson
"David Buoy"-1985 C25 SK/SR #5053
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 12/01/2015 :  21:02:24  Show Profile
Take a look in the photo section. lookee here
Wesley Allen removed the galley and replaced it with a stone countertop. He also added an island (well peninsula really). I thought I might be able to do that with the dinette layout and create a lot more space in the cabin.
Bruce Ross
Passage ~ SR-FK ~ C25 #5032

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Edited by - Voyager on 12/01/2015 21:13:53
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 12/01/2015 :  23:18:04  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Voyager

Take a look in the photo section. lookee here
Wesley Allen removed the galley and replaced it with a stone countertop. He also added an island (well peninsula really). I thought I might be able to do that with the dinette layout and create a lot more space in the cabin.
Yikes! Is a big "kitchen" that important in a C-25 that you'd give up half the salon?? Time for a 34.
Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic/Stonington CT
PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
Now on Eastern 27 $+!nkp*+ Sarge
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DavidBuoy
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Response Posted - 12/02/2015 :  06:56:53  Show Profile
I would actually go the other direction with it and open the space up to make it more usable. I want to tear out the forward sink too. I guess I just use my boat differently.

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"David Buoy"-1985 C25 SK/SR #5053
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Bladeswell
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Response Posted - 12/02/2015 :  08:09:38  Show Profile  Visit Bladeswell's Homepage
Hi again,

Thats funny David. you want to remove the forward sink and I am replacing mine. One of the POs of my boat removed it and converted that area to a hanging locker. Not that its not a good idea, but my GF wants the sink back after seeing photos of how the original area looks. Good sailing all.

Bladeswell
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islander
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Response Posted - 12/02/2015 :  09:21:37  Show Profile
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but my GF wants the sink back after seeing photos of how the original area looks.

That's why its very important to have the feminine view before changing things around. What men want and what woman want are sometimes very different. My wife loves the forward sink area but I can take it or leave it. You know, A happy wife, A happy life so it stays.
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
Sailing out of Glen Cove,L.I Sound


Edited by - islander on 12/02/2015 09:25:32
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Ape-X
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Response Posted - 12/02/2015 :  16:58:23  Show Profile
sinks were added in later years, we had the hanging locker.....
s/v No Worries, O'Day 28
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Bladeswell
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Response Posted - 12/02/2015 :  17:25:24  Show Profile  Visit Bladeswell's Homepage
Hi everyone,

My boat is a 79 and has screw holes in the bulkheads where the sink counter would have been attached. Also, I still have a Too-hull located very nearby that was obviously for the sink drain. Not saying you are wrong, just saying that I don't know when they went from hanging lockers to sinks/faucets. Good sailing.

Bladeswell
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 12/02/2015 :  17:34:46  Show Profile
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sinks were added in later years, we had the hanging locker.....
When I ordered my 1981 C25 in 1980, a hanging locker was standard, and a vanity with sink was an option. I believe a vanity with sink was an available option early in the production run, probably since 1979.
Steve Milby J/24 "Captiva Wind"
previously C&C 35, Cal 25, C25 TR/FK, C22
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Ape-X
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Response Posted - 12/03/2015 :  17:43:52  Show Profile
well it appears I was mistaken, sinks were optional in early years, we had a hanging locker. :O)
s/v No Worries, O'Day 28
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Stinkpotter
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 12/03/2015 :  20:46:04  Show Profile
Before I sold Passage, I was seriously considering removing the head sink and cabinet to put in a hanging locker with a couple of shelves. I never thought a 25' boat needed two sinks, but we were missing a hanging locker.
Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic/Stonington CT
PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
Now on Eastern 27 $+!nkp*+ Sarge
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 12/06/2015 :  19:11:29  Show Profile
Funny, with the dinette setup, I've been trying to figure out how to convert the aft seat into something less "in the way". Aside from taking a saws-all to it, maybe building it up into a counter-height table would work out better. The foreward seat could become a wraparound settee if I could add a seat against the port side where the current table is, but down at seat level.
Just sayin'
Bruce Ross
Passage ~ SR-FK ~ C25 #5032

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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 12/11/2015 :  18:45:26  Show Profile
The Admiral keeps suggesting my building a shelf under the stove that will fit (and secure) a standard Igloo cooler; abandon the ice chest, and instead make a place for a large hot/cold bottled water dispenser all as we never are "cruising" but are usually day sailing with after drinks and hor-d'oeuvres
Peter Bigelow
C-25 TR/FK #2092 Limerick
Rowayton, Ct
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 12/11/2015 :  22:08:45  Show Profile
I keep my pots and pans and plastic dishes and cups in the cooler. I'm seriously thinking about replacing the countertop, keeping the sink but extending the workspace around into an island. If I remove the dinette table altogether, I can add a wraparound seat between the forward dinette seat and a seat - height shelf along the port side wall with padding. The island could have a flip up leaf to provide more table area when needed. It's radical for sure. I've got to take measurements of the cabin and sketch it up for sure to see if it'll work.
Bruce Ross
Passage ~ SR-FK ~ C25 #5032

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WesAllen
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Response Posted - 12/12/2015 :  13:36:16  Show Profile
I don't regret changing my gallery around. I guess it all depends on what type of sailing you do. If I were to do it over I would change the sink faucet to a demand system. In fact that is on my list for this winter if I have time. As far as the table goes cutting it in half was no problem and actually works better for us. We cook and sleep in the cabin and try doing everything else outside.
Wesley Allen
"Breaking Wind"
1982 C-25 SR/TR/SK #2773
Hemlock, MI
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jduck00
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Response Posted - 12/15/2015 :  11:27:18  Show Profile
When I put a new counter in, I just covered up the ice box and didn't try to remove it. I'll dig up some pictures tonight and post them.
Jeremy Duck
The Lucky Duck
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DavidBuoy
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Response Posted - 12/16/2015 :  05:44:41  Show Profile
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Originally posted by jduck00

When I put a new counter in, I just covered up the ice box and didn't try to remove it. I'll dig up some pictures tonight and post them.


Sounds like a potential mold cave, no?

Captain Rob & Admiral Alyson
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jduck00
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Response Posted - 12/16/2015 :  12:13:17  Show Profile
I never tried to get the icebox out so I don't know if it would have come out easily or not. Either way, I wasn't going to try and capture that little bit of storage. I installed a new counter in on top of it. I used 1" poplar for the counters. It was the cheapest hardwood and funds were limited. Its going on 3 years now and is still holding up well.

David, I don't see it being any more moldy than everything else under there that I can't get to. There are just some parts of the boat you can't clean.
Jeremy Duck
The Lucky Duck
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WesAllen
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Response Posted - 12/16/2015 :  22:56:52  Show Profile
I took the drain hose off and we use it for important things like chips.
Wesley Allen
"Breaking Wind"
1982 C-25 SR/TR/SK #2773
Hemlock, MI
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Bladeswell
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Response Posted - 01/07/2016 :  18:07:24  Show Profile  Visit Bladeswell's Homepage
Hello All,

Turns out I don't need to remove the ice box in order to remove the galley counter top. Its not attached to the counter top but directly to the fiberglass galley top molding.
Bladeswell
C25 TR FK Hull #973 1979 L-Dinette. So.Cal.
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Bladeswell
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Response Posted - 01/07/2016 :  18:11:27  Show Profile  Visit Bladeswell's Homepage
For Those that want to know, it is necessary to remove the sink and the electrical panel bulkhead in order to remove the counter top.

Bladeswell
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