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redeye
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Initially Posted - 01/15/2014 :  07:40:12  Show Profile
We had all time record breaking cold here, 5 degrees I think last week. Havn't been to the boat in months. It has rained every weekend for the last 5 months which is really incredible. Starting to look like Seattle... you step in a puddle every time you get out of the car. The house next to our beach house in Panama City had 12 breaks in the pipes...

I wish I had put anitfreeze in the head on my boat, even as it is sitting in the water... Guess I'll find out next time I get to the boat. About time to add a "Kneeboard" checklist to the boat.

Anybody had the head crack?? Or does the water pretty much drain out of those things if they are rarely used?
Ray in Atlanta, Ga.
"Lee Key" '84 Catalina 25
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jduck00
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Response Posted - 01/15/2014 :  08:04:48  Show Profile
No kidding on the cold. We got in the negatives here in Arkansas. Thats's cold for us. I've got a Jabsco head. Next time you do it, you will want to pull the fresh water intake hose off the seacock and pull antifreeze all the way through the toilet. It took me about a gallon to get it all the way through.

I put in another valve on the fresh water side to make winterizing easier. We are going from sailing days to freezing in a weeks span up here. I've winterized the head about 3 times so far this year.
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jduck00
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Response Posted - 01/15/2014 :  08:08:00  Show Profile
On the topic of a busted head... It looked like the PO didn't winterize it when he stored it. The Jasbco it had in it was cracked around the pump housing. Don't know for sure, but I'm guessing it was the cold that did.
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islander
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Response Posted - 01/15/2014 :  08:17:58  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Anybody had the head crack?? Or does the water pretty much drain out of those things<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Usually does when they crack....Jobs already done for ya.
Crazy winter, Temps all over the place. Up and down, Up and down
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redeye
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Response Posted - 01/15/2014 :  11:04:33  Show Profile
yuck.. sounds like I'm not gonna be a luck duck. Oh well... maybe just the pump.

Hmmmm ... I'm guessing WM is gonna be out of stock for a while.
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CarbonSink62
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Response Posted - 01/15/2014 :  12:00:00  Show Profile
My boat sat in NH for 3 seasons before I bought it. The head had frozen water in it when I first looked at the boat in Feb 2012. The holding tank was one big turdcicle (about an inch from the top).

By late March, everything had thawed and there were no issues. I rebuilt the head, but it likely would have needed that anyway (the previous owner didn't seem keen on preventive maintenance).

So maybe, maybe not.
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redeye
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Response Posted - 01/15/2014 :  13:20:38  Show Profile
&lt;&lt; So maybe, maybe not. &gt;&gt; Sweet... I'll bring a duck with me.
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OJ
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Response Posted - 01/15/2014 :  18:28:51  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by redeye</i>
<br />yuck.. sounds like I'm not gonna be a luck duck. Oh well... maybe just the pump.

Hmmmm ... I'm guessing WM is gonna be out of stock for a while.


<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Ray, I have a head laying around, in the way. If you end up needing one, you can have it for packing and shipping.
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blanik
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Response Posted - 01/16/2014 :  00:22:12  Show Profile
i live in Quebec, we're used to this ***ty 5F (-15C) crap (hell, it gets down to -40FC in february!), all you need to do is keep a RV approved antifreeze gallon on the boat, when you leave for extended periods during the winter just pour enough in the sink (with the trough hull closed) and pump the toilet so the antifreeze in the head sink will go down in the toilet until all the water flushing is pink, half the gallon should do (or all of it if you want to be really safe) it'll go in the holding thank also preventing anything there from freezing, no need to remove a hose or anything, even if there's a little water left, the antifreeze will mix wit it...
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redeye
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Response Posted - 01/16/2014 :  13:30:46  Show Profile
&lt;&lt; If you end up needing one, you can have it for packing and shipping. &gt;&gt;

Thank You OJ.. I'm hoping it will be in order..
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sailboat
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Response Posted - 01/16/2014 :  19:24:11  Show Profile
Well, speaking from the Seattle environs, we had a week of unseasonably cold weather in early December. For a week it did not get above freezing and the lows were in the mid teens. Our boat was moored in salt water and the only thing we did for heat was add an additional 100W dehumidifier. One was placed on the dinette table and the other in the center of the v-berth cushions. I checked the boat periodically and both faucets functioned normally and the water in the tank never froze. The surrounding water stayed at 45 degrees so that was probably a big factor in stabilizing the interior temperature.

Had the boat been stored on a trailer I think, without fairly significant heat or anti-freeze precautions items would have frozen. The water in our outdoor horse troughs froze to 8" thick.
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redeye
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Response Posted - 01/17/2014 :  04:39:19  Show Profile
Mike... I'm thinking the boat name saved it...
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