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miketx
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Initially Posted - 12/10/2013 : 20:38:05

Hello all

First I would like to say thank you. This may be my first post but I have been reading advice on this forum for a year and a half. You have answered a lot of my questions by helping others. Now a little about me and my catalina 25. I have always wanted to learn how to sail as a kid and my dreams was rekindled reading sailings logs on the net. I thought I had plenty of time but a stroke set me straight on that :)
One day I noticed a ebay auction for a catalina 25 by boat angle that was located in corpus Christi and from the picture's I figured out where the boat was located. I took a look at her and threw caution to the wind and placed a bid on her at work but got busy and was out bidded. I noticed the person that won had zero feedback so I called and asked if the winner had paid and if not would it be relisted. The winner had not paid and they asked if I placed a bid and if so they would taken my last bid. Well 850 bucks later she is now mine and I have been working on getting her back into sailing shape. All I have left is some work on the 12 volt system, The head sail needs some stitching repaired. NEED to drop the mast and fix the anchor light, steaming light and new running rigging and few other minor things.

On to my questions first i will be sailing the bays , Icw and gulf around corpus. I will be anchoring over night and would like some advice from members on the size of anchor, chain and size, length and type of line I should use.

2nd the bottom gudgeon bolts came loose and over time have been widening the holes.
What is the best way to repair this ??

Michael Bibb
Entropy
Corpus Christi, Tx
81 Catalina 25 FK #2639

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 12/10/2013 : 21:51:41

Welcome Michael! A year and a half, and you own a C-25... Time to join up!

I'm not familiar with the bottom conditions of the Gulf and ICW there, so I'll move on to the gudgeon. The bolts thread into a bronze plate that is glassed into the inside of the transom. (No nuts inside.) Are you saying the threaded holes have opened up? If so, and maybe even if not, I'll suggest through-bolting to nuts and washers inside the quarterberth. Some polysulfide sealer around the bolts should prevent water intrusion, especially since the gudgeon is above the waterline.

The upper gudgeon is a little trickier--to through-bolt it, you need to cut through the liner in the cockpit and install an inspection port. Hopefully you're not there yet.

PS: Are you a physicist? I have a particle physicist friend who named his boat Entropy.

Edited by - Stinkpotter on 12/10/2013 21:56:46

miketx
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Response Posted - 12/11/2013 : 01:17:07

I think i will be joining for sure.Did not know about the bronze plate . Your idea sounds like the way to go. The upper gudgeon is fine.<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">PS: Are you a physicist? I have a particle physicist friend who named his boat Entropy.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
No but the PO told me that the original owner that named the boat was a physicist. Did your friend sell his boat to a doctor??

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 12/11/2013 : 04:47:16

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Stinkpotter
PS: Are you a physicist? I have a particle physicist friend who named his boat Entropy.
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Good choice, much better than Elachsea !

Paul

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cshaw
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Response Posted - 12/11/2013 : 07:08:55

Hi Mike!

Welcome aboard!!

I sailed my Cat 25 in Galveston Bay and all along the TX Gulf Coast (including Corpus area) from 1980 to 2010 before moving to the east coast of central Florida. Cat 25's are perfect for those Gulf Coast waters!

You will get a lot of opinions on anchors. I have two Danforth 12S anchors. Each has about 15ft of 5/16 galvanized chain and shackles (I use Monel locking wire for the shackle pins), 1/2" nylon anchor rodes about 150 ft long with heavy nylon thimbles spliced in and whipped. One stays in the bow locker, and the other down below as a spare, unless I am on a cruise. I also have a small anchor bracket on the bow pulpit for hanging a muddy anchor on till I can slosh it clean, and thats where I carry the 2nd anchor when cruising to have it easy to get to.... The rodes and floats for both, plus the other anchor all stow in the locker, even though it does get full.

Sounds like over kill, but its a nice feeling to sleep well at anchor!!! The water is generally not very deep, which allows you to use a generous amount of scope without having to use a huge amount of line. I use about a 5:1 scope unless conditions are rough (then more) or dead calms (when I can use less).

I use a 4# Danforth with 6ft of 1/4" chain and 50ft of 1/2" rode for a lunch hook. The 1/2" line for the lunch hook is not for strength, but its easier on my hands!

I found the bottoms along the TX Gulf coast have a lot of "gumbo" (heavy dark mud), or sand and clay mixed, and sometimes material very much like gravel. There is also a LOT of Oyster shell material which can be sharp (the larger line stands up to it well, and the chain is essential because of it and also to help set and keep set the anchor. Danforths hold well in those conditions if set correctly, at least for me. If you are in weeds, they can skip off the weeds and be frustrating to get set, but once set they hold well.

I also like the plough type anchors. They are very strong and hold really well, but I found them harder to stow unless you add a small bowsprit and roller. Since the Danforths work well for me in those waters, I just stayed with them....

On a recent cruise here in Florida, we had 4 boats all rafted together with my boat hanging on the sole anchor. The anchorage was nice and protected, but we used to do the same thing with up to 6 of us on my hook in Galveston Bay (which is not nearly as protected.....) It can get buried in the bottom REALLY deep with several boats on it!!

I also put a small anchor float on my anchors for three reasons. One, you can use it to pull out the anchor "backwards" when it gets buried or digs under a big rock, and two, it marks the site of the anchor in case I have to slip the anchor for some reason. The third is it helps (but unfortunately does not prevent) other boats from anchoring on top of it!

I also installed a cleat in the bottom of the anchor locker to tie the bitter end of the anchor rode to... Its easy for an inexperienced crew member to accidently let too much line out, and then "oops"......

Enjoy sailing those waters, its a fun and interesting place to sail!!!

Chuck

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ftworthsailor
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Response Posted - 12/11/2013 : 08:44:24

Hello Mike, and welcome to the forum (with your first posting).

I have two C-25's now, one is a FK and the other is a SK on a trailer. I bought the SK because I want to pull my boat to other local lakes that have established C-25 clubs and sail with them. I also have the desire to take this boat down to Galveston and sail out into the Gulf, someday.

I bought the SK on Ebay for $573.00, however had to drive down to Daytona Beach to pick her up and bring her home. She is an insurance Salvage boat with swing keel damage to the inside keel bunker (I surmise that the cable broke swinging the keel down and smashing the top part through the bunk). The internal cabin fiberglass has been cut away providing clear view and access to the damaged area, however I have not had it up on our club hoist to inspect if there are any further damages to the pivot pins or hull. Once I determine the extent of the damage, and the costs to repair, I will decide on whether this boat is worth saving or it becomes a parts boat and I simply look for another reasonably priced SK.

Two or three times a year, I drive down to Galveston and take a good friends Hunter Passage 42 out for a day sailing trip and absolutely love it. If I could afford something this size, I would probably have it!

Anyway, Chuck has provided some very excellent responses to your query, so no need to expand upon what he provided.

Roy....

Edited by - ftworthsailor on 12/11/2013 08:53:08

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