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tomh
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Initially Posted - 11/05/2013 : 09:36:23

Greetings

My first winter project will be to build some type of "galley box" that will contain a single burner stove and storage space for some utensils, plates, etc.

Looked at the WM and defender websites and narrowed it down to the Origo 1500 ($259.00) or the cookmate 1600 ($169.00). The price difference for gimbals is even worse (Origo $109.99, Cookmate $45.99)

Has anyone compared both or have any thoughts about one vs.the other ? I can't believe that it's simply the difference between manufacturers. The must be some differences that drive the costs. (type of stainless steel, thickness, etc.)

Thanks

Tom

1978 C25 "Karma" #790
Toledo Beach Marina
LaSalle, Michigan

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Stinkpotter
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 11/05/2013 : 10:02:35

[url="http://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-maintenance/78400-origo-vs-cookmate.html"]A Sailnet thread...[/url]

The Cookmate appears to me to be a pretty precise knock-off. Practical Sailor calls it a tie.

The gimbals are good for cooking while heeling under way, but I'd suggest the more important accessory is a pot-holder. A boat wake can come suddenly from any direction while you're moored. Lots of boats have built-in stoves that aren't gimbaled--especially if they're not outfitted for blue-water cruising. I presume both brands offer holders.

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hewebb
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Response Posted - 11/06/2013 : 05:47:47

Here is what I did. The stove is fastened to the cabinet and I had to fasten the top of the stove to the base. Stove is stainless steel butane.I plan to power vent the bilge in case any gas escapes. Used it on last trip for 6 days.

Edited by - hewebb on 11/06/2013 05:49:59

awetmore
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Response Posted - 11/06/2013 : 09:05:20

I used Cookmate gimbals on my Origo stove on my Catalina 25. Additionally my new boat has an Origo 4000 (recessed 2-burner) where my friend's boat has the Cookmate version of the same stove.

The Cookmate parts have a big rougher edges internally, but seem to function about the same. The Origo 4000 also has a much nicer teak and holly cutting board compared to the bamboo one on the Cookmate. I'm not surprised that manufacturing in China with little to no R&D budget (they copied the design) and rougher finish standards vs manufacturing in Sweden makes a big difference in price.

You can buy an Origo single burner stove for the same price as the Cookmate on ebay right now:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ORIGO-Alcohol-Stove-Model-1500-/281197320683?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item4178aa99eb&vxp=mtr

The knob is trivial to source.

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sailboat
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Response Posted - 11/06/2013 : 15:30:16

I went with the Butane option as well. Sometimes it is easier to set the stove on the dinette table and cook there.

Mike
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"Chariots of Fire

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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 11/27/2013 : 09:43:44

You really need to seriously consider if you need a gimbal. At all. We sailed our C25 for over 12 years with an Origo 2 burner just setting the ss "hole" where the old curtain burner used to be, and have sailed our C34 for 15+ years with a fully gimballed two burner stove/oven. We never used the gimbals. That's in 25 years... I agree pot holders are very useful.

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 11/27/2013 : 10:17:04

I now have even more experience with both brands of stove after refilling the Cookmate that is on my friend's boat.

The Cookmate has rougher internal edges and is more annoying to use. The refuel latch on the Cookmate looks like the one on the Origo, but when you undo the thumb screw a spring goes flying. On the Origo everything stays together nicely. The Cookmate appears to be designed so that you can pull the latch up rather than unscrewing it, but on his stove it doesn't work that way.

I agree that gimbals aren't necessary. My new boat's stove isn't compatible with gimbals (it is the recessed model 4000) and I don't miss them. Potholders are nice.

My advice remains about the same, find a good condition used Origo instead of a new Cookmate.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 11/27/2013 : 11:43:17

I've got one of these and like it very much, Max Burton butane stove with carry case:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120-NIB-BURTON-BURNER-MR-MAX-BLK-PORTABLE-BUTANE-STOVE-TOP-CARRY-CASE-/261338684205?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd8ffdb2d

There are several different brands on Ebay in addition to this one.

Edited by - dmpilc on 11/27/2013 11:45:22

Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 11/28/2013 : 10:04:42

There are lots of discussions here about butane stoves... They cook like gas--down to maybe 40 degrees, and then they don't cook at all. I like mine, but I use it between May and September. I had an Origo... cooks slower, generates humidity, and smells a little. Otherwise, it's probably the safest option.

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