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BCG-Woodbury
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Initially Posted - 09/09/2013 : 19:48:13

I'm looking to replace/rebuild my 2 interior doors on my 1984 C25. The wood is salvageable but the fabric is shot. Any suggestions? Has anyone found a replacement source? Is there a post of anyone that has rebuilt theirs? I was thinking it would be a nice winter project.

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Brian & JoAnne Gleissner
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dasreboot
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Response Posted - 09/10/2013 : 04:40:43

I have to fix mine as well. they have pulled loose from the slides.

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CarbonSink62
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Response Posted - 09/10/2013 : 06:00:50

2 doors? Where is the second one?

I only have one that closes off the head/V berth area.

If I replace it, I'm going to make a bi-fold door that is hung on the compression post; I haven't measured to make sure it will swing past the head, but it looks like it would.

As well as more durability and privacy, I could gain some headroom by removing the slide track.

The trick will be to make it look like it belongs there.

Ken

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sfsmith
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Response Posted - 09/10/2013 : 06:33:34

You might check out Greg Jackson's posting of "miscellaneous modifications" in the C25 technical tips section. Replacement doors are one of his projects. Looks like what you're talking about.

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glen
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Response Posted - 09/10/2013 : 09:28:21

Reusing the track and some of the other components I replaced ours with nice beach towels. You can find some good looking ones at beach shops, but make sure the pattern is vertical, and look at what the reverse side of the towels looks like. Some show the pattern on both sides, while others don’t

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sethp001
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Response Posted - 09/10/2013 : 11:52:52

I've been thinking about sliding doors, which I think would be easier for me than bifold.

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pastmember
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Response Posted - 09/10/2013 : 15:50:57

I went with a fabric shower curtain, heavy and pretty. I cut the bottom to fit the curve of the hull avoiding the ladies' ankles showing.

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BCG-Woodbury
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Response Posted - 09/10/2013 : 16:44:26

Ken - Mine has a door between the v-berth and the head and one between the head and the main cabin. Once I pull them off I'll be able to better assess the construction and materials. It looks to be a basic weave of vertical wood slats and strips of fabric/vinyl.

Frank - I was thinking that something like a window shade on its side would work.

Has anyone spent the night in their C25 with these closed? Seems like it could be a bit stuffy. Leaving them open isn't the greatest either with the head right there. I have a marine head so that might not be too bad as long as it is clean.

Thanks for the input.

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Response Posted - 09/10/2013 : 18:01:45

I sleep with both of mine closed almost every weekend. The 6500 Btu air conditioner keeps it nice and frosty! No stuffiness at all.

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BCG-Woodbury
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Response Posted - 09/10/2013 : 18:06:52

GaryB -

Please share your AC setup with us if you haven't already.

Thanks,

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Response Posted - 09/10/2013 : 18:52:05

Pretty simple setup. Set the window unit in the companionway with something to keep the unit from flipping back into the cockpit, install the top companionway board, use a 8 X 10' plastic tarp to stuff in the remaining opening around the unit to keep the cool air in and the bugs out, plug in and enjoy.

The only drawback is having to remove the tarp and top companionway board and climbing over the unit. If I'm tired I will slide the entire unit back while it sits on a plastic bucket.

I've been wondering the past couple of weeks if anyone has a built in system in their C25/C250? Looks like a couple grand would fix you up really nice!

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Response Posted - 09/10/2013 : 19:39:11

Brad, Texas is not like Candlewood Lake in CT! How many nights would you want to listen to A/C? One every other year? Where would you go to hook up to shore power--Stamford? (Not much depth between you and there.)

On your Swap Meet thread, I mentioned removing the "head knockers" and going with fabric... You said you were "only" 5'11"... That's two inches taller than I am, and I still have scars (or at least still remember the hits). You must be more skilled than I.

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BCG-Woodbury
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Response Posted - 09/10/2013 : 20:31:21

Hey Dave -

I guess I've been lucky or just quicker to duck. I never said never, my day will come soon enough. This is only my 2nd season. I have shore power on my dock, just interested for the future. Some setups are quite creative. Did you every replace Passage?

Regards,

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Response Posted - 09/10/2013 : 20:40:01

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by BCG-Woodbury
 Did you every replace Passage?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Only as shown in my signature.

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Ape-X
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Response Posted - 09/11/2013 : 03:14:40

I have two of those doors in my garage: likely not to replace in the sale of Moe, unless the purchaser (please show up soon) wants them....
We kept the doors off: I liked the idea of a curtain, stretching a thin cable across the top and a couple of snaps waist high

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BCG-Woodbury
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Response Posted - 09/11/2013 : 19:57:52

To All -

I checked out mine today in more detail and it doesn't look so bad. Only the first fold is damaged so I think I will remove them and repair the handle side this winter. I like the originals so fixing them will be the least expensive way out. The inside edge (with about two-three folds) is screwed to the bulkhead. I can extend those out and relocate the sliders and I'll be good to go. Once unfolded, the wood and fabric look great. Maybe I'll spray the whole thing with some clear urethane to seal the wood. The handle says Elkhart Door Company but the Google search only turned up modern plastic bi-folds. Either way I'm OK with these for now. That leaves some money in the budget for a new 135% Genoa. I contacted Northsail Direct last night and they said they don't offer discounts but would doo free shipping. Their 135% is $715 for the furled version so I think that is going on my birthday list (if anyone was wondering what to get me). Thanks for all the input.

Regards,

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Response Posted - 09/12/2013 : 08:46:37

I would not use urethane anywhere on my boat. It eventually ages and begins to flake off and you have to remove it entirely to recoat. Better to wipe the door down with an oil product such as Murphy's or teak oil and repeat the process occasionally. The door has benn there almost 30 years without the urethane and I would advise against adding it now.

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BCG-Woodbury
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Response Posted - 09/12/2013 : 20:14:23

Thanks Joe - I'll have to find something that is compatible with the fabric/vinyl strips. Not really pressed for that part. I'll pull them in the Fall and have the Winter to fix them up.

Regards,

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Response Posted - 09/15/2013 : 05:27:09

For what its worth. . . I never use my "doors", which are in only fair condition. I have thought if I were to replace them I would go with curtains made from Sunbrella material -- both for practicality (just tie them back, easy to remove and clean, etc.) and to add some brightness to the cabin. When I had my cushions recovered by a upholstery guy specializing in marine work I learned that most upholsterers have remnant scrap, including Sunbrella, from previous jobs that they can offer pretty inexpensively. Two suggested uses were pillows and curtains -- both port/window curtains and "privacy" curtains. More recently we had a chair restored and as we were looking at material options a customer came in to pick up privacy curtains for the head of their boat. Just another option that might provide a nice upgrade.

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Response Posted - 09/15/2013 : 07:07:26

my door between the head and the main cabin was partly ripped form the slides due to a clumsy repair guy, i fix it but the wood would rip from the metal clamp every time someone would push it with a shoulder... but the one between the head and v-berth was never used (i have the dinette cabin, which was modified to make a giant queen sized bed, so the v-berth is only a storage) so i might just switch both doors and call it a day

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Response Posted - 09/15/2013 : 07:38:58

Any of you gentlemen wanting to depart with one of the doors I would like to purchase one. Thank you Ken Email brewthru76@gmail

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Ape-X
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Response Posted - 09/15/2013 : 08:17:49

cat25 where are you at: shipping would likely be bulky

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BCG-Woodbury
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Response Posted - 09/15/2013 : 12:22:40

Cat25 - There is a guy on eBay that salvages Powerboats and Sailboats and right now he has a C27 that he is parting out. Those doors are most likely the same size as yours. Here is a link to his eBay Store for what it's worth. I would imagine it could be shipped in a 6"x6' cardboard tube.

http://stores.ebay.com/Affmarine?_rdc=1

Good luck,

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Ape-X
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Response Posted - 09/16/2013 : 14:05:03

cat25, I received your e-mail but couldn't reply back:
I have two doors at home. I will take some pictures to send over the next couple of days.

I can be reached directly at imkeene at msn dot com

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