Catalina - Capri - 25s International Assocaition Logo(2006)  
Assn Members Area · Join
h.jpg Home.
a.jpg Association Forum
s.jpg Ships Store
c.jpg Cruising
r.jpg Racing
t.jpg Technical Tips
g.jpg Photo Gallery - New
o.jpg Boat Search - Updated
m.jpg Manuals & Brochures
3rdrpt.jpg Swap Meet
l.jpg Links
f.jpg Officer Flag Line & Staff
b.jpg Bylaws & Constitution
 
1.jpg Members Area
1.jpg Join the Association
 
Notice:
The advice given on this site is based upon individual or quoted experience, yours may differ.
The Officers, Staff and members of this site only provide information based upon the concept that anyone utilizing this information does so at their own risk and holds harmless all contributors to this site.
 
Association Forum
Association Forum
Home | Profile | Register | Active Topics | Forum Users | Search | FAQ
Username:
 Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

 All Forums
 Catalina/Capri 25/250 Sailor's Forums
 Catalina 25 Specific Forum
 Main Halyard Length		  New Topic  Topic Locked
 Printer Friendly
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  

jonfrey@ymail.com
Deckhand

Member Avatar

USA
7 Posts
Initially Posted - 08/06/2013 :  12:07:37  Show Profile
I'm new to sailing as of last year. I have a 25 SR/SK. The halyards have been lead back to the cockpit, but I am having problems raising the main that I think are due to the size of the halyard (7/16"). Even when I pull down on the halyard at the mast., there is considerable resistance. When the mast was down I looked at the sheeves and they appeared to be just fine. I believe the correct size is 5/16". Can anyone confirm the size and tell me the length so that I can install the correct size and hopefully correct this problem?

Incidentally, this forum has been a huge resource for me as a new sailor! Great job!
Edited by - on

OJ
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
4382 Posts
Response Posted - 08/06/2013 :  12:20:06  Show Profile
Have a look-see at the "Manuals & Brochures" at the left of this screen . . . and yes, many here have gone to a one size smaller diameter line.
Edited by - OJ on 08/06/2013 12:20:46
Go to Top of Page

jonfrey@ymail.com
Deckhand

Members Avatar

USA
7 Posts
Response Posted - 08/06/2013 :  17:59:07  Show Profile
Thanks for the guidance, OJ.
Edited by - on
Go to Top of Page

GaryB
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
4303 Posts
Response Posted - 08/06/2013 :  18:03:19  Show Profile
You might want to lube the sail slides with http://content.westmarine.com/images/catalog/large/318230.jpg

Dry sail slugs used to make my mainsail very difficult to raise and lower. It made a huge difference. Sail will drop all the way on its own.

I used it once about 5 years ago and the sail still slides smoothly in the track.
Edited by - GaryB on 08/06/2013 18:10:57
Go to Top of Page

dmpilc
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
4593 Posts
Response Posted - 08/06/2013 :  20:14:52  Show Profile
5/16" is the proper size. Anything larger will be overkill.
for the length of an all rope main halyard, I suggest 2x the length of the mast plus 10' if you are leading it back to the cockpit. A SR mast is 28', so 66' should be good for the halyard. Round up to 70' if you plan to secure the halyard to the lifelines when you dock the boat.
Edited by - dmpilc on 08/06/2013 20:19:17
Go to Top of Page

Dave5041
Former Mainsheet Editor

Members Avatar

USA
3758 Posts
Response Posted - 08/07/2013 :  17:05:55  Show Profile
I clean and lube the track with SailKote every season - it works great and can be done with the mast up or down. Also, I use 1/4" Vectran-100 for the main and 5/16 for the genoa. Vectran was on sale when I replaced my halyards.
Edited by - on
Go to Top of Page

hewebb
Admiral

Members Avatar

USA
761 Posts
Response Posted - 08/15/2013 :  05:15:11  Show Profile
I added a new halyard to Doug's boat and two new ones to mine. We used 3/8 non-stretch line. I believe we used 76 feet on Doug's tall rig. I ordered 100 feet for each to have some spare line for taking up space in the dumpster.
Edited by - on
Go to Top of Page

Stinkpotter
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

Djibouti
9076 Posts
Response Posted - 08/15/2013 :  06:17:00  Show Profile
Are the sheaves that look "just fine" the right size for your oversized rope? If they're original (for wire-to-rope halyards), that explains your resistance--7/16" won't fin in them at all. If they're Catalina Direct's replacement mast-head sheaves, they're intended for 5/16" halyards--yours might bind in them under tension.
Edited by - Stinkpotter on 08/15/2013 06:18:08
Go to Top of Page

jonfrey@ymail.com
Deckhand

Members Avatar

USA
7 Posts
Response Posted - 08/15/2013 :  13:41:19  Show Profile
The 5/16" halyard has been installed...problem solved. What a difference! When the halyard is released, the top 2/3 of the sail literally falls toward the boom...love it. Thanks for all the great feedback!
Edited by - on
Go to Top of Page

Captain Mike
Deckhand

Members Avatar

USA
11 Posts
Response Posted - 08/17/2013 :  11:57:12  Show Profile
What is the maximum size soft line that the OEM wire halyard sheeve can handle? Mine sheeves appear to be in good shape and I'd like to convert to all rope while the mast is down.
Edited by - on
Go to Top of Page

awetmore
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
1144 Posts
Response Posted - 08/17/2013 :  14:52:07  Show Profile
The replacement sheaves aren't too expensive and if you look closely you may find that your existing ones aren't in great shape. The originals on my 1984 (that always lived in cloudy Seattle) were cracked around the hubs.

I think the originals will work best with 1/8", but will handle up to 1/4". One method for doing all rope would be to splice 1/8" dyneema (amsteel) to 1/4" rope and have the dyneema be on the loaded section that runs over the sheaves.
Edited by - on
Go to Top of Page

Captain Mike
Deckhand

Members Avatar

USA
11 Posts
Response Posted - 08/17/2013 :  16:55:49  Show Profile
I like that idea, Alex. Does anyone know if WM splices their rope at the store or mail order? Most rope dealers do but I like to get as much done locally as I can.
Edited by - on
Go to Top of Page

awetmore
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
1144 Posts
Response Posted - 08/17/2013 :  22:38:31  Show Profile
Not sure, I have always done my splicing myself. In Seattle we're also blessed with a really great chandlery called Fisheries Supply, so I almost never go to West Marine.
Edited by - on
Go to Top of Page

dmpilc
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
4593 Posts
Response Posted - 08/18/2013 :  06:04:13  Show Profile
The sheaves run $12-15 each, plus s/h, and you will need to replace all 4 to convert to all rope. It is well worth the money and, if your mast is already down, that's a great time to switch them out. You won't regret it.
Edited by - on
Go to Top of Page
  Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
 New Topic  Topic Locked
 Printer Friendly
Jump To:
Association Forum © since 1999 Catalina Capri 25s International Association Go To Top Of Page
Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.06
Notice: The advice given on this site is based upon individual or quoted experience, yours may differ.
The Officers, Staff and members of this site only provide information based upon the concept that anyone utilizing this information does so at their own risk and holds harmless all contributors to this site.