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sethp001
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Initially Posted - 05/06/2013 : 23:11:04

So I've been eyeballing this boat: http://lynchburg.craigslist.org/boa/3752416588.html

It might be nice for my family of seven, and to assuage my inboard envy.

But primarily this forum, that the C25 has relatively huge production numbers, parts are readily available, and that Catalina is still in business, makes me hesitate to change boats.

There isn't a forum like this for S2 owners. You guys are a good bunch.

Cheers! I'm off to find an IPA like Stinkpotter or whatever redeye was drinking in the Lots of Marine Tex thread.

Seth
"Outlier" 1987 Catalina 25 SR/SK/Traditional Interior #5541
"Zoo" 1977 Morgan Out Island 30
"Nomad" 1980 Prindle 16
"Lost" 1988 Catalina Capri 14.2 (sold - yay!)
"Marine Tex 1" Unknown Origin POS 8' Fiberglass Dinghy
https://whichsailboat.com/2014/07/27/catalina-25-review/

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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 05/07/2013 : 06:36:36

What in the world are they doing on that winch??

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/07/2013 : 06:42:56

They probably experienced a difficult override some years ago and decided it was easier to just live with it than to try to undo it.

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sethp001
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Response Posted - 05/09/2013 : 21:06:15

I don't know, but I was going to ask her out.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 05/09/2013 : 21:22:26

S2 approved main halyard storage? :)

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sethp001
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Response Posted - 05/29/2013 : 17:49:16

So I went and looked at this boat. Two major concerns:

1. At the aft corner on both sides of the top of the deckhouse, the fiberglass nearly completely broken through (cracked about two inches below the top of the deck house all the way around each corner, but the top of the deck house is not cracked).

2. The wood peace above the door from the salon to the head is 2" lower on the starboard side (where it attaches to the compression post). The compression post may be lower too, but not sure.

The mast step on deck is not compressed at all.

Why would those corners be broken like that?

The keel is lead encased in fiberglass molded to the hull. Could the keel have been grounded hard enough for the force to be transferred through the hull structure to cause that damage?

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Response Posted - 05/29/2013 : 20:42:52

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by sethp001
 ...The keel is lead encased in fiberglass molded to the hull. Could the keel have been grounded hard enough for the force to be transferred through the hull structure to cause that damage?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Can you look at the keel? The answer might be there.

Don't close a deal without a survey. Forget the price--you could end up with something that's not seaworthy, can't be sold at any price, and will cost you to dispose of. Hopefully it's not that bad, but you have some questions that a professional should answer before you shell out more good money. $400 (?) could be a good investment if it leads you to run away, and will give you lots of good information if you don't.

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Response Posted - 05/30/2013 : 07:18:12

Are you sure that the fiberglass is broken through and that it isn't just cracking in too thick gelcoat? That type of cracking is fairly common at hard corners. The compression post issues sound more concerning. Have you looked at other options too?

This is a great group, and you can still hang out here after you've sold your C-25 (no one has kicked me out yet!).

You may find that not having Catalina Direct isn't that big of an issue. There are only 200 Pearson 28-2s in the world, but almost all of the parts on my boat are made by much bigger suppliers (Bomar, Beckson, Isomat, Schaefer, Lewmar) and most of those companies are still in business or well represented. If anything it's easier for me to get parts for. Catalina used a lot more custom stuff so Catalina Direct is helpful to have around.

For what it's worth I sometimes miss my outboard. It was loud and buzzy compared to the inboard, but it also has no drag when sailing, is easier to service, and the entire thing can be replaced at any time for $2k. On the other hand the inboard is a lot nicer for cruising, gets much better fuel economy, and the noise is a lot less annoying.

Good luck with the boat shopping!

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sethp001
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Response Posted - 05/30/2013 : 16:36:45

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Stinkpotter
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by sethp001
 ...The keel is lead encased in fiberglass molded to the hull. Could the keel have been grounded hard enough for the force to be transferred through the hull structure to cause that damage?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Can you look at the keel? The answer might be there.
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I'm making arrangements to haul it out at our boat club. Will keep you posted.

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sethp001
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Response Posted - 05/30/2013 : 16:39:15

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by awetmore
 Are you sure that the fiberglass is broken through and that it isn't just cracking in too thick gelcoat? That type of cracking is fairly common at hard corners. The compression post issues sound more concerning. Have you looked at other options too?

This is a great group, and you can still hang out here after you've sold your C-25 (no one has kicked me out yet!).

You may find that not having Catalina Direct isn't that big of an issue. There are only 200 Pearson 28-2s in the world, but almost all of the parts on my boat are made by much bigger suppliers (Bomar, Beckson, Isomat, Schaefer, Lewmar) and most of those companies are still in business or well represented. If anything it's easier for me to get parts for. Catalina used a lot more custom stuff so Catalina Direct is helpful to have around.

For what it's worth I sometimes miss my outboard. It was loud and buzzy compared to the inboard, but it also has no drag when sailing, is easier to service, and the entire thing can be replaced at any time for $2k. On the other hand the inboard is a lot nicer for cruising, gets much better fuel economy, and the noise is a lot less annoying.

Good luck with the boat shopping!
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Thanks! I need to go back and have a better look at those corners. I hope its what you say because I like the boat. The sinking compression post could be unrelated, due to the block of wood beneath it being rotted. I'm making arrangements to have it hauled. I guess if the keel looks good then these other two issues are unrelated and can be more easily fixed. I'll post back with what I find out.

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