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julie 50
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Initially Posted - 04/22/2013 : 15:06:38

Hi,

We have bought a C250WB long distance. It was inspected and looks really good, but seems to be missing the forked aft mast support. We have one for our C22 and are wondering if it will fit in the gudgeons of the C250. We are going a long way to pick the boat up next month and need to be prepared.

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C250 WB

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 04/22/2013 : 15:33:54

I don't know if the mast supports are interchangeable, others here will be able to tell you since we have a fair number of C-22 owners or PO's.

However, if you take some PVC pipe, connectors and a hack saw with you, it won't be difficult to fabricate a mast support that rides somewhere in the cockpit. For short term I've simply used fenders lashed to the mast & rear railing when I needed to hang the rudder for something while on the trailer, but I'd want to be more secure than that if traveling some distance as it sounds you are.

Another option would be to fabricate a support out of 2x4 material designed to be securely lashed to the uprights of the rear railing. The mast would be somewhat offset to the side, but not enough to be outside your towing envelope. The WB guys can give you the height from the cockpit floor to the top of the rear railing so you could be at the right height. A couple of [url="http://www.animatedknots.com/constrictor/index.php?Categ=scouting&LogoImage=LogoGrog.jpg&Website=www.animatedknots.com"]constrictor [/url]knots tied properly would hold the upright in place nicely.

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zeil
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Response Posted - 04/22/2013 : 18:00:35

Welcome to this forum and congratulations with acquiring a wonderful boat... no doubt you'll enjoy time spent in her company whether it is sailing or just being around doing things

The aft mast carrier, although at present I do not have a precise measurement, must carry the mast in such a way that the spreaders clear the cabin deck by a good margin. Estimating, the aft mast support must be somewhere in the area of about 5'6" above the cockpit's floor. If no mast support comes with the boat using, as already mentioned, 2"x4" cross braces will do a good job until you can have a proper aft mast carrier fabricated.

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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 04/22/2013 : 18:44:08

Check with Catalina Direct. If they sell the same Mast Stepper gizmo for the C22 as they do for the C250, then it's a safe bet that yours will work for either.

FWIW, I have a homemade mast support made from 2x4s. It fits into the gudgeons. However, I was concerned about stressing them during heavy storm winds in the winter, so I actually use a sawhorse made from 2x4s to support the mast while the tarp is over the boat. It seems more stable, and might be a better option for travel on the trailer. The sawhorse brackets are available very inexpensively at Home Depot, and you can cut the 2x4s to the appropriate height.

Some pictures of my stuff are available in [url="http://catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21203&whichpage=3"]this thread[/url].

FYI, the gudgeons on my C250 are exactly 12" apart. If yous are the same spacing, your support shoul fit in the gudgeons. I am not sure just how high it needs to hold the mast. My homemade support is higher than the minimum required to provide a good slope for drainage of my tarp.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 04/22/2013 : 19:49:46

Just went and measured out C250WB mast crutch.

89" from top spindle to lower end when extended fully

67" from top spindle to lower end when collapsed.

ie. 22" difference from top pin hole in crutch tube to lower pin hole in crutch tube.

As Rick suggested, the critical thing is to ensure the spreaders are clear of the deck.

I have seen 2"x4"s lashed as an X such that the legs sit between the cockpit locker sides and the top of the x supporting the mast.

The foot of our mast sits on the top of the Mast raising post on the trailer, but I have seen the foot resting on a wooden crutch mounted on the pulpit.

We lash the shrouds to the mast along it's length. The furler foil is also strapped to the mast and is longer, so we have two pieces of 3" pvc piping cut lengthwise and then bolted together (imagine the Number 8 with the top and bottom cut off) so that one half sits on the mast and the upper half acts like a gutter to support the end of the furler. The pipe pieces are about 5' long.

If you took 3 8' 2x4s with you, you could easily manufacture a support for both ends of the mast. (and a hand saw

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Wish you guys luck and welcome to the forum.

Paul

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julie 50
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Response Posted - 04/23/2013 : 09:50:16

Thank you all, and especially thanks to Rick - great idea, we might borrow it - and Paul - that's exactly what I needed to know. We can fab one up before we leave if we need to. You guys are great!

By the way - we studied this site well before we settled on this boat. Thanks for helping a couple of lurkers.

Now - does anyone have experience rigging a jib downhaul on one of these boats? I wish we had one on our 22, and we ARE going to have one on the 250. Any tips, instructions or diagrams would be great.

Thanks!

Julie

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Response Posted - 04/23/2013 : 14:02:27

Julie,
if you have a furler, a down haul is pretty much useless as the jib has to be pulled out from the gap in the furler track near the Tack.

Paul

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julie 50
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Response Posted - 04/23/2013 : 18:40:26

No furler.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 04/23/2013 : 18:56:04

Then a block at the tack with a line run from the halyard down to the block and then aft to a cleat.

Paul

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