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keeldad
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Initially Posted - 12/23/2012 :  12:29:50  Show Profile
These things hold the luff extensions together. I broke one while putting the mast away this year. Apparently they are no longer available as replacement parts. I'm sure I'm not the first person who has had this happen to them. Any ideas on where I can get a replacement part or some other idea on how to fix this? Thanks.

John & Emery Keeler
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'84 SR/SK #4260
Ocean City NJ

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Response Posted - 12/23/2012 :  13:33:27  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
Not sure what you are describing here.

[url="http://www.sailcdi.com/sailpdf/FF4&6%20manual%206_12.pdf"]Here's a link to the CDI Manual[/url]

Am I on the wrong furler type?

Paul

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keeldad
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Response Posted - 12/23/2012 :  13:46:49  Show Profile
Paul, I saw that manual as well. It looks like there is a one piece luff on those. Mine is three (I think) pieces held together by these torque links. They are shown on the parts list section of the CDI web site but it indicates that they aren't available anymore. I suspect mine is the original roller furler that came with the boat in '84 so I'm assuming the manual we are looking at is for a newer version.

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Response Posted - 12/23/2012 :  15:40:10  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
When I recently had my standing rigging replaced by Atlantic Riggers (out of Annapolis). Before they came down to perform the work, they were asking me if my CDI fuler was one of those that had the segments or was the one piece design. Mine is of the one piece design. They told me that they have had problems with the ones with the segments because they are prone to breaking when the rig is lowered. I suspect the one piece design came out a bit later but is probably how CDI has made them for at least the past 20 years. That info , of course, does not help you any. I am not sure where you get replacement parts. Maybe some riggers in the area would have some spares since they must come across that design when they do standing rigging changeouts.

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Response Posted - 12/23/2012 :  16:40:35  Show Profile
You could ask CDI whether their one-piece foil (or "luff" as they call it) can be adapted to the older model furler... Probably not, but might be worth asking. Or, you might need a different swivel to fit the new foil... Who knows?

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 12/24/2012 :  06:52:12  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
John,

I thought about Dave's comment regarding contacting CDI. That is obviously the best thing to do. I checked the CDI website and they apparently indicate that for many of the various older model furlers, they do have spare parts. It indicates the continuous furler came out around 1989 and sometime in the early 80s is when they sold their CDI Reefer whichhad the segmented sections. If you go to the link that pictures the various segmmented section style models, you determine which one you have and then select the link on the left side of the screen. It then provides you with a detailed schematic of all the parts and a brief write-up as to what they have available. They also indicate that they have conversion kits for the drum if you need any drum hardware replaced, if they no longer have those parts available. Below is the main link followed by links regarding spare parts. Rcmd search the website for more info and then contact them.
http://www.sailcdi.com/welcome.htm

http://www.sailcdi.com/spmain.htm

http://www.sailcdi.com/sprimain.htm

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keeldad
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Response Posted - 12/24/2012 :  16:37:07  Show Profile
Thanks for the advice. I don't know why I didn't think of simply calling the manufacturer. I guess I was hoping someone would chime in with "I had the same problem..." and give me a $10.00 fix. Yeah Right! "B.O.A.T." I'll call CDI later in the week and see what they say.

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Response Posted - 12/25/2012 :  08:48:07  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by keeldad</i>
<br />...I guess I was hoping someone would chime in with "I had the same problem..."<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">As they say about the New York Lottery, "Hey--you never know!" In particular, I was thinking if you could adapt the one-piece foil to the old drum, you'd get rid of an apparent problem that others have faced--broken links. CDI should know...

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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 12/26/2012 :  04:56:40  Show Profile
You should definitely call. They're a very small company - you call and the owner answers the phone on the first ring. They've been very patient with my geeky questions before. You might have to wait 'til January 2, though.

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keeldad
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Response Posted - 01/04/2013 :  13:06:30  Show Profile
Called CDI this morning. Very nice people. The torque links are no longer available but the gentleman was familiar with my problem and he had the following suggestion. The links are 4" long. Normally they break in the middle of the joint resulting in two 2" pieces. He suggested that I drill a hole and install a pop rivet 1" from the top of the bottom piece of the section in question and use the 2" piece to join the sections together. Not perfect but a solution. He also told me that they couldn't put a new foil on an old spool. They can however, put a new spool on an old foil so if anybody out there has an older, functional 3 piece foil with a broken spool, CDI has a solution for that (or you could buy a brand new furler and sell me the torque links from your old foil.)

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keeldad
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Response Posted - 01/04/2013 :  21:33:55  Show Profile
Thought about that Steve but they are really intricate. They have about 8 ridges that slide into the corresponding female slots on the foil. I was considering figuring out what size the slots were, finding some round stock of the same diameter and somehow using the stock to join the sections. The idea with putting a pop rivet in the lower section to keep the piece from traveling too far down might somehow work if I can't use the 2" broken sections.

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 01/07/2013 :  10:40:33  Show Profile
You might email Minnies Yacht Surplus and see if they have any on hand. They have a large assortment of old sailboat hardware and may be able to assist.

http://www.minneysyachtsurplus.com/

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Response Posted - 01/07/2013 :  16:10:55  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
could you make one from grp ?

paul

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