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redviking
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Response Posted - 12/14/2012 : 08:34:24

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by redeye
 Well put Sten! Sounds like you are a good lawyer yourself!

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Been there a few times. I'm not afraid of the laws of our land. While I agree that they are most often manipulated to the advantage of neerthewells, I suffer fools not. In ancient times, closing a bridge on a sailing vessel would have resulted in heads rolling for real. This seems tame for what it really was.

Sten

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redviking
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Response Posted - 12/14/2012 : 08:39:46

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave5041
 I'm sure lawyers love your attitude, Sten. Lord knows somebody has to pay for the Mercedes.

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Wrong state dude... The caps in Florida are holding things down... Lawyers in Florida are essentially the same thing as cab drivers. Nickel chasers... Numbers game. Few big hits... I have several lawyers on demand. They all do different stuff. Some do intellectual property, some collections, some employment law, some stupid stuff, etc... I see this as an opportunity to educate. Loss of money is the ultimate educator.

Sten

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 12/14/2012 : 16:08:20

I think Tom's taking the right approach -- almost. I think it might be more reasonable to expect the at-fault parties (and/or insurance co) to pay replacement cost rather than NADA value. Big difference.

"Make 'em pay" positions like the idea Sten suggests is more for bluster at the bar.

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 12/14/2012 : 17:00:35

I'll bet insurance went up a fair clip for that bridge. I'll bet the tender lost his job. Tom got a fair shake. What else is there except greed and revenge?

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redviking
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Response Posted - 12/14/2012 : 23:02:37

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by DaveR
 I'll bet insurance went up a fair clip for that bridge. I'll bet the tender lost his job. Tom got a fair shake. What else is there except greed and revenge?
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I don't know, accountability, training, certification, awareness?

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Response Posted - 12/15/2012 : 16:52:11

The tender losing his job and the insurance company pouncing on them is accountability. When the new tender is hired you can bank on the fact he'll be trained and certified to the requirement of the law and EVERYONE involved with that Bascule is well aware by now I think .......

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 12/15/2012 : 20:02:43

Unlike many, I have made mistakes. It happens. A pattern of mistakes needs review and correction, but nobody is operating at 100% all of the time and error cannot be eliminated. We know nothing about the bridge tender's experience or record. Greed and self-righteousness is especially out of place when those at fault act responsibly.

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Response Posted - 12/16/2012 : 05:26:54

For what its worth, it has led to a more vigorous accounting at bridge opens at not just that local bridge. The bridge tenders are all now ensuring they know numbers and names when they take calls. Yes, should have been SOP prior, but if nothing else, it opened the eyes of the local privately owned bridges.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 12/16/2012 : 22:40:42

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by TCurran
 For what its worth, it has led to a more vigorous accounting at bridge opens at not just that local bridge. The bridge tenders are all now ensuring they know numbers and names when they take calls. Yes, should have been SOP prior, but if nothing else, it opened the eyes of the local privately owned bridges.
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Then, I'm happy... The speculation regarding penalties has been creative. I suspect the tender did not lose his job. Just a guess.

Sten

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