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rededge
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Initially Posted - 09/11/2012 : 16:45:40

I'm new to this forum and looked for a related topic, but forgive me if there is a thread on this already. Winter is approaching fast here, in Anchorage, and I need to get my new project on the hard to be able to do some work over the winter. Part of what I need to do is drop the keel, refinish it, and re-bed it. In order to do this I need to get the boat from a trailer onto stands.

There are no lifts around, how can I safely take a Catalina 25 swing keel off a trailer onto stands? And, does any one have a good way to drop the keel for refinishing with out effecting the balance of the boat? I had the idea of a large boom Truck, but would like to do with out if I could.

Any help is appreciated.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 09/11/2012 : 17:13:06

Matt,
Welcome to the forum! Here's a [url="http://catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=10858"]thread on how to do what you're trying[/url]. It might not be exactly what you need, but it'll certainly get you going down the right road. I searched simply for "trailer stand" on the search feature on the left side of the pane below the navigation items.

Let us know how it goes, and ask lots of questions, there are a bunch of C-25 swing keel guys that can offer advice on your boat.

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rededge
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Response Posted - 09/11/2012 : 17:18:34

Thanks Davis! That looks great, at least something to get me going. I'll post the progress.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 09/11/2012 : 17:48:27

If you are or know a mason, you can build a frame around the boat of heavy duty scaffolding, and run ratchet straps across the square to lift the boat. A member of my last club did this every year to swap boats on his trailer.

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 09/15/2012 : 11:34:58

Install a couple of bow eyes on each side of the stern. Rent a couple of portable engine hoists from your local rental store. Run a loop of chain between the bow eyes on the stern, then hook one of the hoists in the middle of the chain. Use another hoist on the front and then just jack up the boat.

I used to lift my 21' SeaRay off the trailer so I could clean and polish the bottom. I'd lift the boat, pull the trailer out from under it, slide in some stands I'd welded up and then lower the boat onto the stands. I left the hoists attached while the boat was on the stands just in case something broke on my home made stands.

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bradminda
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Response Posted - 10/04/2012 : 23:09:58

I read the thread on how to take a boat off it's trailer will this be possible and work for a fixed keel boat as well

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glen
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Response Posted - 10/05/2012 : 13:55:23

For the keel, what I have done is had a steel cradle welded just for the keel. It has a flat plate for the base that will secure to a “Transmission Jack” The fixture (plate) has 4 angle iron vertical posts spaced so the keel fits loosely between them. At the top of the vertical posts there is a 1/2” nut welded to it. This allows you to run bolts through it to secure the keel, the same way a Christmas tree stand captures the tree. The transmission jack has wheels and is able to adjust and tweak to any angle, so you can lift it and place it in the perfect position. Make sure you have a good concrete surface under the boat so you can roll the fixture out after you lower the keel

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MrKawfey
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Response Posted - 10/05/2012 : 15:22:55

Glen,
Are you saying that you can drop your swing keel into this fixture on the transmission jack, unbolt the keel, lower it all down and roll the KEEL out from under the boat?

If so, what do you do with it from there? Do you have a way of lifting it out of the fixture for painting or repairing? Do you just leave it the fixture?

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glen
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Response Posted - 10/08/2012 : 12:13:04

15 to 18 Years ago the pivot hole in the keel had worn to an elliptical shape. This was allowing the keel to rock from side to side. So with the boat in the marina hoist I jacked the fixture up onto the keel, adding a shim or two on the fixture bottom (to stabilize the lower end of the keel that was now sitting in the fixture), I turned in and secured the top bolts to hold the keel and fixture together. I removed the “pillow blocks” (I think that is the name for the keel pin hinge brackets) and lowered the keel, thus removing it. The marina moved it and later placed it on a flatbed truck with a backhoe. This was done by passing a chain through the pivot hole and lifting the keel and fixture combination. The truck was owned by the machine shop that I contracted to drill out the hole and insert a bearing with a new pin. It worked great, but now that familiar thud, thud is back, which means some time in the next few years I will be cleaning the rust off, and using that fixture again.

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